Remember when Trump said "If You are Innocent you dont take the Fifth Amendment?"

[UnionStrong]

That's not necessarily a BAD thing. I remember being disgusted with the entire process as Hillary and Trump were the top two candidates for President. The office of POTUS was certainly devalued

Never more than now….just sayin’

 

[728ups]

Never more than now….just sayin’

I wont really argue that either. People of good character, leaders, etc dont want to run so we are left with Mconnel,Pelosi,AOC,MJT, Gaetz,Biden,Desantis. It isnt party centric

 

[UnionStrong]

I wont really argue that either. People of good character, leaders, etc dont want to run so we are left with Mconnel,Pelosi,AOC,MJT, Gaetz,Biden,Desantis. It isnt party centric

I have much respect for you, and I wouldn’t ever throw you away because I don’t agree with you on everything. In fact I probably agree with you on many more things than disagree. Having said that, in all honesty, what is so great about the agenda being pushed by the left?

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I wont really argue that either. People of good character, leaders, etc dont want to run so we are left with Mconnel,Pelosi,AOC,MJT, Gaetz,Biden,Desantis. It isnt party centric

I think they do, but they get smeared and voted out in the primaries.

 

[728ups]

I have much respect for you, and I wouldn’t ever throw you away because I don’t agree with you on everything. In fact I probably agree with you on many more things than disagree. Having said that, in all honesty, what is so great about the agenda being pushed by the left?

Right back at you, i feel the same about you. As far as political parties: I feel they are both crap. Neither side give a rats ass about the working class, it's all about how much money they can make. I dont feel Biden is as stupid as he is made to be,nor do i feel he is a saint. I dont feel Trump is evil ( and I will give Steve Bannon the aboslute HIGHEST respect in transforming Trump and making working class Christians feel like he is "one of them" .) but i DO feel Trump had only political aspirations to enhance his brand and use the office to make as much money as he could.

In all honesty i feel the Left separates Church and State far better than the right.I live in fear of Christian Nationalists gaining power

 

[Thebrownblob]

Right back at you, i feel the same about you. As far as political parties: I feel they are both crap. Neither side give a rats ass about the working class, it's all about how much money they can make. I dont feel Biden is as stupid as he is made to be,nor do i feel he is a saint. I dont feel Trump is evil ( and I will give Steve Bannon the aboslute HIGHEST respect in transforming Trump and making working class Christians feel like he is "one of them" .) but i DO feel Trump had only political aspirations to enhance his brand and use the office to make as much money as he could.

In all honesty i feel the Left separates Church and State far better than the right.I live in fear of Christian Nationalists gaining power

Reasonable and well thought out, we do not have to agree on everything. But we agree on many things. The brotherhood runs strong. I will honestly say I have trouble believing any billionaire or millionaire has my blue collar selfs best interest in mind.

 

[UnionStrong]

Right back at you, i feel the same about you. As far as political parties: I feel they are both crap. Neither side give a rats ass about the working class, it's all about how much money they can make. I dont feel Biden is as stupid as he is made to be,nor do i feel he is a saint. I dont feel Trump is evil ( and I will give Steve Bannon the aboslute HIGHEST respect in transforming Trump and making working class Christians feel like he is "one of them" .) but i DO feel Trump had only political aspirations to enhance his brand and use the office to make as much money as he could.

In all honesty i feel the Left separates Church and State far better than the right.I live in fear of Christian Nationalists gaining power

Ok. I can’t speak on Trumps aspirations, so there’s not a dimes width between us there. I consider myself a Christian, not evangelical, but bible believing. I unabashedly love my country, and I will fight to preserve and protect it. I agree both parties suck. We are brothers by trade, a shared experience doing a difficult job, and we both escaped, lol. Tell me, how are we different?

 

[vantexan]

Right back at you, i feel the same about you. As far as political parties: I feel they are both crap. Neither side give a rats ass about the working class, it's all about how much money they can make. I dont feel Biden is as stupid as he is made to be,nor do i feel he is a saint. I dont feel Trump is evil ( and I will give Steve Bannon the aboslute HIGHEST respect in transforming Trump and making working class Christians feel like he is "one of them" .) but i DO feel Trump had only political aspirations to enhance his brand and use the office to make as much money as he could.

In all honesty i feel the Left separates Church and State far better than the right.I live in fear of Christian Nationalists gaining power

Wrong way to think. All those billionaires and millionaires give us thousandaires jobs. And when Friday night rolls around the restaurant you take your family to, the supermarket you shop at, the gas station you stop at, the tv you pick up at Best Buy, and on and on are all there making your life easier because billionaires and millionaires are investing and working hard to make sure those enterprises deliver on their investments. I wish people would stop and realize they take for granted what much of the world only dreams of having.

 

[TearsInRain]

I wont really argue that either. People of good character, leaders, etc dont want to run so we are left with Mconnel,Pelosi,AOC,MJT, Gaetz,Biden,Desantis. It isnt party centric

this has been true as far back as the ancient greeks, we aren't "left with" anyone, those are the choices ALL THE TIME

you accept the churn and move on with your life, throw your vote away on 3rd parties, or save it up for a "true believer" to come along and reform the system (most likely by putting people up against a wall)

those are your American choices and always have been; in Europe its worse as the 3rd parties join in ing you over too

 

[TearsInRain]

In all honesty i feel the Left separates Church and State far better than the right. I live in fear of Christian Nationalists gaining power

i don't believe in semitic desert sorcerers of any variety, but if you think Christian Nationalists is the worst outcome, you need to wake up and read some history

the only people who think Handsmaid Tale is the nightmare scenario for the US are retarded women straight out of college with an art degree, 2 abortion notches, and a slew of piercings and tats

 

[vantexan]

I wont really argue that either. People of good character, leaders, etc dont want to run so we are left with Mconnel,Pelosi,AOC,MJT, Gaetz,Biden,Desantis. It isnt party centric

I see we're getting in shots at DeSantis before '24. He's the best governor in the country and if he becomes president will govern with the same common sense and prudence that Florida loves him for.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

In all honesty i feel the Left separates Church and State far better than the right.I live in fear of Christian Nationalists gaining power

LMFAO
Amazing how easily you people fall for the latest propaganda.

 

[UnionStrong]

Wrong way to think. All those billionaires and millionaires give us thousandaires jobs. And when Friday night rolls around the restaurant you take your family to, the supermarket you shop at, the gas station you stop at, the tv you pick up at Best Buy, and on and on are all there making your life easier because billionaires and millionaires are investing and working hard to make sure those enterprises deliver on their investments. I wish people would stop and realize they take for granted what much of the world only dreams of having.

I think many will realize it before it’s over.

 

[olroadbeech]

That's not necessarily a BAD thing. I remember being disgusted with the entire process as Hillary and Trump were the top two candidates for President. The office of POTUS was certainly devalued

No one with average intelligence would ever want this job.....

 

[UnionStrong]

No one with average intelligence would ever want this job.....

Well, that definitely eliminates you.

 

[728ups]

i don't believe in semitic desert sorcerers of any variety, but if you think Christian Nationalists is the worst outcome, you need to wake up and read some history

the only people who think Handsmaid Tale is the nightmare scenario for the US are retarded women straight out of college with an art degree, 2 abortion notches, and a slew of piercings and tats

There was a time when the Mega rich and extremely religious people were in power. It was called the Dark Ages.

I cant think of anything worse than Christian Nationalists taking power. Everything is based on 'God told me to__________" and that is dangerous.

 

[UnionStrong]

That's not necessarily a BAD thing. I remember being disgusted with the entire process as Hillary and Trump were the top two candidates for President. The office of POTUS was certainly devalued

I never thought Trump was a serious candidate, I was shocked when he got the nomination.

 

[vantexan]

No one with average intelligence would ever want this job.....

JFK was supposed to be brilliant.

 

[UnionStrong]

JFK was supposed to be brilliant.

He was, until his brain got blown out.

 

[TearsInRain]

There was a time when the Mega rich and extremely religious people were in power. It was called the Dark Ages.

I cant think of anything worse than Christian Nationalists taking power. Everything is based on 'God told me to__________" and that is dangerous.

• the mega rich and extremely religious people are still in power, nothing has changed except what religion they mostly follow
  • this isn't a judgement, simply a fact
• do you prefer "our manifesto told me to_______"?
  • i'll say this, the religious wars of the middle ages at least gave you a choice of religious conversion almost every time; when the bolsheviks come for you, the only choice is whether you sign your confession before you get a bullet to your head