So I asked...."the 22.4's are doing the same job as me for less pay?"

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Hroller, Aug 20, 2018.

  1. Hroller

    Hroller Member

    At our "presentation" this past weekend, I stated that the new classification of driver is doing the same job I do....but for $6 less?

    Union guy responds...."yes, that is correct"

    Me: "how does this help me eliminate my 10 hour days?"

    Union guy: "you won't have to work Saturdays"

    Me: "so this cut-rate driver will work Saturday, delivering my Monday packages?"

    Union guy: "could happen, but probably won't"

    Me: "How do you know? Then I'll be laid off on Monday?"

    Union guy: "if you're laidd off on Monday.....you can bump the 22.4 driver on Saturday and get your full five days"


    He said this all with a straight face.
     
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  2. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Did you ask him to provide you with the language that says you can bump a 22.4 on Saturday to get your hours?
     
  3. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    No Art 22.4 will work if a FT driver is laid off. Problem is so many FT drivers will take time off whenever it is offered.
     
  4. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    Lots of drivers need to learn how to ask for a broom and a toilet brush, to get their 8-hour guarantee.

    We’re our own worst enemy.
     
  5. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Then the Porters will file on drivers working outside their classification. No the laid off drivers should ask what time the midnight sort starts.
     
  6. MyTripisCut

    MyTripisCut Dumpster, INABAG

    No porters here.
     
  7. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    No Porters here, but I agree.
     
  8. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    No Porters? Porters are the highest echelon of Union classification in my building 35 years seniority before you can even dream about bidding a job and that is only if you are there at the right time. Most are 60 to 70+years old and the jobs only turn over every 5 to 10 years. Sort of like being on the US Supreme Court.
     
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  9. sandwich

    sandwich The resident gearhead

    Need 10 hours off in between shifts
     
  10. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Not if you are laid off. The new contract says 90 minutes and also that you must work a PT job or two when laid off.
     
  11. Grey

    Grey Active Member

    Everyone talks about Monday and Tuesday being tricky but what happens on Wed-Fri when RPCD’s and 22.4’s all want to work and are guaranteed 8 hours?
     
  12. sandwich

    sandwich The resident gearhead

    Isn't 10 hours off dot law
     
  13. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    That’s also some hemorrhoid cream on your toothbrush, 90 minutes between shifts, take your breaks within that window?

    Utter nonsense.
     
  14. Slug Life

    Slug Life When do we eat?

    [email protected] me. I would have asked him to step inside my office.
     
  15. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Not if you are not driving.
     
  16. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Happens all the time with Art 22.3 employees.
     
  17. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

    Isn’t the problem here that if the RPCD work week is officially M-F under the new Contract, an RPCD not working on a Saturday isn’t actually/technically a lay-off?