Supervisors working preload

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Inputnamehere, Feb 11, 2020.

  1. Sudz

    Sudz Active Member

    File on the sups working? That's what this whole conversation is about, after all. If the Business Agent isn't responding to you, keep sending him polite reminders regarding your issue until he does. If he's as bad as the steward, go above his head to the local president.
     
  2. Sudz

    Sudz Active Member

    Alternatively, this is a far more dangerous approach, not for the faint of heart, but I've used it before and it seemed to do the trick: Refuse to leave. Politely tell your supervisor that as long as supervisors are performing bargaining unit work, you don't want to leave. He'll probably threaten to walk you out, but once he brings discipline into the conversation you're entitled to have a steward present. Then you can have a pow wow and hash this crap out. You gotta have stones to go this route though, because there is a real possibility of getting (temporarily) fired.
     
  3. Justaloader

    Justaloader Active Member

    I’ll take some time to think this one through, but I’m very tempted to change my ways (coming in, doing my job, going home) and trying this route.
     
  4. BadIdeaGuy

    BadIdeaGuy Not mine, but it needed immortalizing.

    You're thinking about everything wrong.

    Short staffed?
    That's code for getting more hours, because you are going to work *safely*.
    They send it down faster?
    Stack it out higher.

    As for me helping your center.
    Are you in 710?
    If you are, I can absolutely try to help. If not, then you need to be the guy calling.
     
  5. Justaloader

    Justaloader Active Member

    Stack it out....not sure if you’ve loaded trailers or how things work where you are, but our only option is to let stuff fall off the roller line, which leads to egress violations, and the pickoff having to shut the main belt off when he has no where to put boxes due to the lines being overwhelmed.

    I get what you are saying - believe me, I do.

    Sadly, no. I’m 384.
     
  6. Inputnamehere

    Inputnamehere New Member

    @Justaloader

    Where I disagree with you is that supervisors no longer working and there being "way too much work" for the staff you have. Have way too much work? :censored2: em. You work as fast as you need to work safely. No need AT ALL to get stressed. You getting behind? Too bad.

    I went to my union today and spoke with the my BA. He said he will fully back me and the steward should too, if not let him know. To me it's definitely worth it. The backbone of our contract is a few things, one of them being supe's not working. One of the perks we have, and I for sure plan to file grievances for each incident. :censored2: 'em.
     
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  7. Sudz

    Sudz Active Member

    I love it when that happens. Once packages start falling off the belt, rollers, or slide, the name of the game is "safety." Your priority shifts from loading the trailer, to ensuring egress...no matter how badly it's backed up.

    I understand not wanting to rock the boat, but sometimes they give you no choice. And so often, like in your situation, they give you all the tools you need to really rake them over the coals...without grievances, even.
     
  8. johnlennon

    johnlennon 25.11 full-time combo employee (Rockford-710)

    Called The Stick And Move approach
     
  9. eats packages

    eats packages I have depth perception issues

    No implosion will happen, you will be late by some degree every day for the majority of your work here. I would treat the handful of days that you actually get done on time as a blessing, every other day is a normal day.

    Keep the supervisor working greviances coming. Sometimes it takes $15 for them to back off and hire more people other times they just don't care and you get a free couple of hundos for the month.
     
  10. Siveriano

    Siveriano Active Member

    So far I have about 15 grievances from supervisors working, but my manager usually only settles until November.
     
  11. Inputnamehere

    Inputnamehere New Member

    I’ll put in a grievance every time, which at this rate is literally every day. Go ahead, target me. I do my job.
     
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  12. Boston25

    Boston25 Active Member

    Absolutely do it by the methods and safely. Then grieve them when they work. What can the company get you on then??
     
  13. Sudz

    Sudz Active Member

    Don't forget to file for retaliation when they do.
     
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  14. Poop Head

    Poop Head Lovin' every minute of it!

    Weak
     
  15. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    And watch the grievances go nowhere
     
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  16. Inputnamehere

    Inputnamehere New Member

    ding ding ding, this ends up being the problem
     
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  17. As an up-to-date paid in full union member. I have no issues with supervisors helping handle packages! Don’t care what the contract says, will always back the sups in this situation. You must be a slow loader or on a slow belt. If you’re keeping the belt moving and aren’t stacking, you’re doing you’re job. If you can’t keep up, then you’re not. Then the Sups have to help for safety! Stacking isn’t loading.
     
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  18. Boston25

    Boston25 Active Member

    Stacking is still part of union members job on the preload so therefore supervisors are working when they shouldn’t.
     
  19. Stacking is for lazy people who can’t keep up with the work!
     
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  20. Stacking also creates safety issues. Less walking space. More hinderances in and out of truck.