Teamsters pension cut

  1. The nerve of that guy to depend on the Pension that he had worked 30 years plus to receive and the union Took it it what a jerk
  2. I say give us the money for our pension not the union I could manage it better than they do and I would have it at the end because remember if the union has it it's not your money
Maybe you could manage your pension money better, but too many other employees would just go buy a bigger pick up truck or blow it at the casino or on lottery tickets.
 

Faceplanted

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Maybe you could manage your pension money better, but too many other employees would just go buy a bigger pick up truck or blow it at the casino or on lottery tickets.
That's their problem. Instead the people running the funds get bigger planes and boats and the guy still gets less than he should.

It's not trade swcret how to plan for retirement. If somebody can't take 20 minutes and read up some basics then I could care less if they retire broke.

Those same people have hours a day to watch tv and play look what I got on social media.

I defiantly would not go as far as to call somebody an idiot though who got scammed of what they were told is rightfully theirs.... such as lots of failing pensions.
 
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crow27

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I get

I get that. You pay in and you should get your money out. But what bothers me is how much people at UPS complain. To be completely honest we make way more than we should. We deliver boxes. It's not hard and it's nothing super important(it is to some extent). I make more than my wife who is a nurse. We make more than the avg wage lawyers make. We make more than teachers, police officers, EMT, firefighters, and really most jobs I can think of(I know there are exceptions). But when I hear people complain about not making enough etc and then I see how irresponsible they are with their money it's sad. You want higher wages? Well longer days and more scrutiny from management will follow. I heard a car washer complain about not among enough. Let me tell you. YOU WASH CARS! you're not saving lives and your doing nothing important. It's a beginner job and you deserve to make 8.25 or whatever they make an hour. People are so entitled it's sad....And this is coming from a millennial. So I get the pension thing. But at the same time save your own damn money...Roth IRA, target retirement fund...etc....plenty of other options out there.
Tell the nurses at the hospital and the lawyers offices I deliver NDA everyday to that my job isn't important...
 

crow27

Active Member
Those deliveries could be made just as effectively by a contractor in a white van.
Load up the van and do it then, I have too many stops as is.
Please inform me of these contractors in vans that make it across North America in 24hrs too, I am genuinely curious.
 
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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These are just a few of the independent couriers that I see throughout my day:

Ace Courier Express
Adirondack Courier Services
Adirondack Coast Courier Services
Capital Region Courier Service
Flying Nunn's
Green Mountain Messenger


All offer same day pickup and delivery with competitive rates.
 

hellfire

no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG
All the pensions, minus those bailed out by ups, are going to fail..EXPECT IT.. Go CS,, aka, the largest number and those that voted Hoffa out... You others pray and hope big brown saves your failing pension too.. it's a comin
 

crow27

Active Member
These are just a few of the independent couriers that I see throughout my day:

Ace Courier Express
Adirondack Courier Services
Adirondack Coast Courier Services
Capital Region Courier Service
Flying Nunn's
Green Mountain Messenger


All offer same day pickup and delivery with competitive rates.
All of those are just regional services...None of them will deliver overnight across the entire country in 24 hrs...In my experience having parts delivered with hot shot service van from Texas to Missouri for example was at least $600
 
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