El Correcto
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You keep saying that but I don’t think you even know what it means.
Also did you cast your vote after January 6th. Lol?
The Derek Chauvin Trial
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Also did you cast your vote after January 6th. Lol?
zubenelgenubi
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I never said that. Ttku. There's actually three separate layers that are at least mutually exclusive, and contradictory at most. 2nd degree murder in Minnesota requires intent to commit a felony, and a death resulting from it. In this case it would be unintentional murder while intentionally commiting a felony.
3rd degree murder is unintentional murder from a depraved disregard for human life. If you do not accept this as a different degree of culpability, then this charge is no different than 2nd degree murder, especially since there is almost no way you can commit a murder without an underlying felony of assault. If you accept this as a lower level of culpability than 2nd degree murder, you can't be guilty of both a higher and lower degree of culpability, it's mutually exclusive, and potentially contradictory.
2nd degree manslaughter requires yet another level of culpability, which is negligence. The statute states "consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another". So how can you consciously take a chance of causing and unintentionally cause the death of someone? This is contradictory.
Three different charges, three different levels of culpability and theories of intent or lack thereof. All equally true. Bollocks.
Didn't take a rocket surgeon to see where he was going with his preemptive election fraud narrative and to also take a guess at what might come after November 3 .
Trump has signaled he won't accept an election loss. Many of his voters agree.
U.S. election: What happens if Trump loses to Biden, but refuses to concede?
"President Donald Trump has refused to say he’d accept the results of the election in the event that he loses, and in the closing days of the race, some of his supporters have taken his faulty or unsubstantiated claims about voter fraud to heart.
At a packed outdoor rally in this battleground state Wednesday, Trump said the polls that show him trailing the Democratic nominee Joe Biden are “fake,” drawing boos from the crowd and raising their expectations of victory. He also said he feared voter fraud, which studies have repeatedly found to be extremely rare, and in most cases nonexistent.
“The biggest problem we have is if they cheat with the ballots. That's my biggest problem,” he told supporters at the Phoenix Goodyear Airport this week. “That's my only thing — that's the only thing I worry about.”
U.S. President Donald Trump is doubling down on claims that the upcoming election could be rigged, leading experts to sound the alarm over what could be the country’s first non-peaceful transition of power.
Speaking to reporters on Wednesday, Trump would not commit to a peaceful transfer, should he lose to Democratic candidate Joe Biden on Nov. 3.
“Well we’re going to have to see what happens,” he said. “You know that I’ve been complaining about the ballots, the ballots are a disaster.”
“There won’t be a transfer, frankly,” he said. “There’ll be a continuation.”
On Friday, Trump again sowed doubt about the election results, saying the only way he would lose is “if there’s mischief.”
MAKAVELI
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Yes and the jury was instructed by the judge on all 3. He was convicted on all 3 and there is no contradictory on any of the charges. Ttku...
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
I just demonstrated the contradictions. Ttku. Lol.
EXPLAINER: Why is Chauvin unlikely to face maximum sentence?
"Even though he was found guilty of three counts, under Minnesota statutes he’ll only be sentenced on the most serious one — second-degree murder. While that count carries a maximum sentence of 40 years, experts say he won’t get that much. They say that for all practical purposes, the maximum he would face is 30 years, and he could get less.
Here’s a breakdown on Minnesota’s sentencing nuances:
WHY WON’T WE SEE MULTIPLE SENTENCES?
Because all the charges stem from one act, carried out against one person. Multiple sentences are typically handed down in cases when there are convictions for multiple victims, or multiple crimes against one victim.
For example, if a defendant is convicted of kidnapping and sexually assaulting a woman — two crimes against one victim — a judge would issue a sentence on each count, and could rule that they be served at the same time or consecutively, said former Hennepin County chief public defender Mary Moriarty.
That’s not the case here, Moriarty said. “This case involved three different theories of the same behavior toward the same person.”
MAKAVELI
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No you didn't. Ttku.
MAKAVELI
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Stacking of charges is nothing new. You're just mad it's against a white cop. Lol
wilberforce15
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'I Didn't Want to Go Through the Rioting': Juror in Chauvin Trial Makes Stunning Admission over 'Guilty' Verdict - Becker News
On Tuesday, a jury found Derek Chauvin guilty of second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter in a case that had sparked nationwide riots: The death of George Floyd. During the course of the trial, Judge Peter Cahill mentioned that the court case was getting...
beckernews.com
The most obvious mistrial in the history of mistrials.
MAKAVELI
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Fake news. You couldn't even quote one of the 12. Lol'I Didn't Want to Go Through the Rioting': Juror in Chauvin Trial Makes Stunning Admission over 'Guilty' Verdict - Becker News
On Tuesday, a jury found Derek Chauvin guilty of second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter in a case that had sparked nationwide riots: The death of George Floyd. During the course of the trial, Judge Peter Cahill mentioned that the court case was getting...
The most obvious mistrial in the history of mistrials.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
You're just mad the white cop didn't get the death penalty. You racist. Lol. And yes, I did demonstrate the contradiction. Sorry if it hurts to deal with ideas not spoon fed to you by your racist media overlords.
I'm not mad he got convicted. He tried to plead guilty to third degree murder. He got what he deserved. I just like to point out obviously racist jurors who can't reason for themselves.
MAKAVELI
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Bro, the judge approved of the charges. Get over it. Your boy will be doing time. Lol
Only for one of them.
MAKAVELI
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If you can't do the time don't do the crime. LolOnly for one of them.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
He's likely to do less time than he was offering in his plea deal. Really a show trial, and waste of time and money.
Sounds like it might not be much time for Chauvin if Judge Cahill doesn't add much more for aggravating factors or victim impact, according to CBS News.
Derek Chauvin faces decades in prison, but he could serve far less
"In Minnesota, inmates typically serve two-thirds of their sentence behind bars and the remaining third of their sentence on supervised release.
For someone with no criminal history such as Chauvin, the suggested sentencing range for unintentional second-degree murder and third degree murder is the same — from just over 10 and a half years to 15 years in prison. The recommended median sentence is 12 and a half years — the same sentence handed down in 2019 to Mohamed Noor, a former Minneapolis police officer convicted of third-degree murder for firing a shot from inside his squad car and killing a woman who had called 911."
DriveInDriѵeOut
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Name the racist law that exists today.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Equal Opportunity.
MAKAVELI
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He was convicted on all 3 charges. He will be doing more time than a plea. But keep on believing in your boy lol
DriveInDriѵeOut
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Total nonsense.
You Democrats were saying you wouldn't accept the results either. You people were pushing conspiracy theories about disappearing mailboxes FFS.