The Silent Downfall of United Parcel Service (1907-20??)

[Soloman6192]

I know. We've got a ways to go before we really need to be worried. But, at the very least we are experiencing a permanent decrease in volume in the short term, which MUST mean a layoff is coming for those unfortunate few at the bottom. You can't have a permanent reduction in volume AND keep the same number of people working. UPS don't fly like that.

I'm not sure where you are seeing a decrease in our Volume. Since the break up of FedEx and Amazon we've increased our air volume by 30+% let alone now the ground volume we've picked up. Peak has started and this will be one of the worst ones yet that I've seen in 28 years !!!!! You younger people should pay more attention to what's coming down the road with these 22.4 jobs and what's going to happen when Amazon goes 100% on their own !!!! Start giving and paying more attention to our Union and who's running the show . It's your future so be ready

 

[Superteeth2478]

If only people weren't lazy and would actually shop around and price match so they can realize just how overrated Amazon is.

You know, the interesting thing is that Amazon has, apparently in the past year or so, been beginning to offer competitive pricing. A lot of things are priced at parity with, say, Walmart. It certainly never used to be the case but I've begun to notice it.

 

[Superteeth2478]

Kewl. Im detailing my Lexus RC350. As soon as im done ill jump back on here. You can tell me more

Nice! I had one a year ago. Traded it in for a 'vette though!

 

[Superteeth2478]

In the end Earth will be destroyed by the exploding Sun.

Actually, the mass of our sun is not great enough for it to supernova at the end of its lifespan, but it will turn into an ever-expanding red giant that will likely engulf Earth along with Mercury and Venus.

 

[Superteeth2478]

and they will have a war chest to fight off the U.S. govt. anti trust lawsuits.

I'm glad someone realized that Amazon would face anti-trust lawsuits if it were ever to threaten to put FedEx and UPS out of business. But then, perhaps the war chest will be enough for it not to matter.

 

[TearsInRain]

"Record profits" year after year? Why freak out now?

record profits don’t mean much if your competition is blowing you out of the water

it’s only a matter of time before you’re run out of business

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

record profits don’t mean much if your competition is blowing you out of the water

it’s only a matter of time before you’re run out of business

Sell your stock now...

 

[Box Ox]

Sell your stock now...

People shouldn’t own a lot of UPS stock anyway. Money should be in something like a well-diversified stock market index fund.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

People shouldn’t own a lot of UPS stock anyway. Money should be in something like a well-diversified stock market index fund.

And how many threads have we seen on here that I need to cash my UPS stock in (insert reason here)?

 

[Poop Head]

record profits don’t mean much if your competition is blowing you out of the water

it’s only a matter of time before you’re run out of business

We deliver packages. And we do it well. If you don't like it, then you can just ggeeeettt ooouuuuttt!!

 

[Turdferguson]

record profits don’t mean much if your competition is blowing you out of the water

it’s only a matter of time before you’re run out of business

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/carolineodonovan/amazon-next-day-delivery-deaths
Only a matter of time before they stop being everyone's darling

 

[watdaflock?]

Example: Walmart has a store set up on Amazon.
.

No they don't, but (third party) commerce re-sellers do.
You order on Amazon.
The commerce re-seller has a deal with Walmart, where their price is less than yours.
Commerce re-sellers send you your Amazon order from Walmart.

It’s called “retail arbitrage,” and it’s more common than people think.

Hope this helps.

 

[Underallowed306]

People shouldn’t own a lot of UPS stock anyway. Money should be in something like a well-diversified stock market index fund.

UPS one of VERY few stocks to pay a dividend every quarter. What do you think the index fund is invested in?

 

[Underallowed306]

Only a matter of time before they stop being everyone's darling

Just wait until they want to unionize.

 

[Box Ox]

UPS one of VERY few stocks to pay a dividend every quarter. What do you think the index fund is invested in?

It's all about balancing both risk and returns for me. Dumping money into UPS stock to make money with money I probably don't need anyway is fine. But I wouldn't bet my supplemental retirement funds on it.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Is Amazon retail even showing a profit yet?

Last I looked into it their web services and cloud computing was the only thing they're doing that makes money.

I think Amazon knows data in general is going to be the most profitable sector in the future, and everything they're doing is a means to an end to control that data.

 

[Northbaypkg]

To those who are seeing an increase in volume, how close is the nearest fulfillment center to your hub?

The fulfillment center in our area is actually four blocks away. The white vans speed past our hub so fast that there are now motorcycle cops who sit behind some bushes able to bust at least one every morning for speeding or bust them for having parcels on the dash.

Yet our volume is up and our air is late seemingly everyday because of this extra Amazon volume. The guy that does the route by our building says he always has a ton of NDA for them that he simply can't deliver on time because they have too many vans going in and out of the place in the morning. So he sheets it up closed and drops it off later. He also picks up a ton of NDA from them, seems to be a bunch of their own stuff with UPS next day air saver labels slapped over the original Amazon delivery labels.

I also wonder why we continue to help this company that clearly looks to compete with us in the coming years. I just hope the higher ups have some kind of plan. Seems they do, according to Tears in Rain but from what he mentioned it sounds like a desperation act, which doesn't give me much comfort.

 

[Staydryitsraining]

As long as abney is running this ship expect us to deliver Amazon until they dont want us to nationally.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

The fulfillment center in our area is actually four blocks away. The white vans speed past our hub so fast that there are now motorcycle cops who sit behind some bushes able to bust at least one every morning for speeding or bust them for having parcels on the dash.

Yet our volume is up and our air is late seemingly everyday because of this extra Amazon volume. The guy that does the route by our building says he always has a ton of NDA for them that he simply can't deliver on time because they have too many vans going in and out of the place in the morning. So he sheets it up closed and drops it off later. He also picks up a ton of NDA from them, seems to be a bunch of their own stuff with UPS next day air saver labels slapped over the original Amazon delivery labels.

I also wonder why we continue to help this company that clearly looks to compete with us in the coming years. I just hope the higher ups have some kind of plan. Seems they do, according to Tears in Rain but from what he mentioned it sounds like a desperation act, which doesn't give me much comfort.

The “plan” is the same as always.

1) Make money for our stock holders
2) Be reactive, not proactive
3) Focus on compliance metrics
4) Ignore all competition
5) Forget when peak starts

 

[Returntosender]

drinking your beer cause it low calories