THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[Box Ox]

He was talking about how the frogs are turning gay. Became a funny meme as you said. But When you look into it more, you’ll see he was talking about certain pesticides that are actually changing the sex of frogs from male to female. Changing their biological structure

“Studies have found that male frogs exposed to atrazine-contaminated water can develop into functional females, capable of mating and producing eggs”

Now let’s just get real hypothetical here for debate purposes, assuming you’re keeping an open mind

Let’s say something happened that changed your physical structure to that resembling a female, but your brain is still you. Your body is now by all accounts physically a female, but your brain is telling you that you’re a male.

Are you going to now start dressing and acting and identifying as a female because that’s what your biological body is showing as fact, or are you going to continue to dress and identify as a man like your brain is telling you that you are?

Let's say I wake up tomorrow morning and my brain/thoughts are the same. But I now have female reproductive organs and everything in my biology is female. I've somehow become a woman whether I like it or not.

Cite one example in which this has happened in humans.

and you would from that point on identify as a woman and call yourself a woman to others?

I could choose to still call myself a man but that wouldn't be the truth if my biology is female.

 

[Doublestandards]

I could choose to still call myself a man but that wouldn't be the truth if my biology is female.

I’m not asking about the “truth”. I’m asking if everything about YOU, your thoughts, your ego, your self identity, was the same, but your body was different

Would you suddenly start conforming to society’s standards of what a woman is, because that is what your body says it is, or would you continue to identify as a man, because that’s what your brain says it is. Would you stop dressing the way you do now to identify with your body?

Because your physically a woman now, would you defy your brain and start wearing dresses and skirts to match with what society expects from your body, or would you identify with your brain?

I find it very hard to believe you would start acting and dressing like a woman and going against everything your brain is telling you, just because your body doesn’t match with your thoughts

 

[Doublestandards]

@Doublestandards you don’t think there’s something seriously wrong here? This would be the statistical equivalent of being hit by lightning three times.

maybe there is something genetically that can play a role in transgenderism where one family has more than some, and I don’t think it’s crazy to think a transgender person would have another transgender friend. It must be pretty scary and confusing, and would probably be comforting to find someone else who knows what you’re going through, and is harder to relate with others

 

[Thebrownblob]

I’m not asking about the “truth”. I’m asking if everything about YOU, your thoughts, your ego, your self identity, was the same, but your body was different

Would you suddenly start conforming to society’s standards of what a woman is, because that is what your body says it is, or would you continue to identify as a man, because that’s what your brain says it is. Would you stop dressing the way you do now to identify with your body?

Because your physically a woman now, would you defy your brain and start wearing dresses and skirts to match with what society expects from your body, or would you identify with your brain?

I find it very hard to believe you would start acting and dressing like a woman and going against everything your brain is telling you, just because your body doesn’t match with your thoughts

Sorry you can’t really ignore the “truth”That’s kind of the whole point.

Every human being has to conform to their society one Way or another, and if they don’t, they pay a price one way or another. Sometimes they go to jail when they won’t conform.

You’re really really big on legalizing drugs well the people that don’t want to believe the truth that it’s illegal to do some drugs sometimes end up in jail because they won’t conform to the laws

 

[Thebrownblob]

maybe there is something genetically that can play a role in transgenderism where one family has more than some, and I don’t think it’s crazy to think a transgender person would have another transgender friend. It must be pretty scary and confusing, and would probably be comforting to find someone else who knows what you’re going through, and is harder to relate with others

Only two of those people in her list were family members. The rest were just friends or acquaintances.

 

[Box Ox]

He was talking about how the frogs are turning gay. Became a funny meme as you said. But When you look into it more, you’ll see he was talking about certain pesticides that are actually changing the sex of frogs from male to female. Changing their biological structure

“Studies have found that male frogs exposed to atrazine-contaminated water can develop into functional females, capable of mating and producing eggs”

Now let’s just get real hypothetical here for debate purposes, assuming you’re keeping an open mind

Let’s say something happened that changed your physical structure to that resembling a female, but your brain is still you. Your body is now by all accounts physically a female, but your brain is telling you that you’re a male.

Are you going to now start dressing and acting and identifying as a female because that’s what your biological body is showing as fact, or are you going to continue to dress and identify as a man like your brain is telling you that you are?

Let's say I wake up tomorrow morning and my brain/thoughts are the same. But I now have female reproductive organs and everything in my biology is female. I've somehow become a woman whether I like it or not.

Cite one example in which this has happened in humans.

I could choose to still call myself a man but that wouldn't be the truth if my biology is female.

I’m not asking about the “truth”. I’m asking if everything about YOU, your thoughts, your ego, your self identity, was the same, but your body was different

Would you suddenly start conforming to society’s standards of what a woman is, because that is what your body says it is, or would you continue to identify as a man, because that’s what your brain says it is. Would you stop dressing the way you do now to identify with your body?

Because your physically a woman now, would you defy your brain and start wearing dresses and skirts to match with what society expects from your body, or would you identify with your brain?

I find it very hard to believe you would start acting and dressing like a woman and going against everything your brain is telling you, just because your body doesn’t match with your thoughts

You're trying to defend men who think they're women in their heads but are not biologically women by citing something that has never happened in humans: a biological sex swap with the brain and thoughts remaining the same.

 

[Doublestandards]

Sorry you can’t really ignore the “truth”That’s kind of the whole point.

Every human being has to conform to their society and when we are another, and if they don’t, they pay a price one way or another. Sometimes they go to jail when they won’t conform.

You’re really really big on legalizing drugs well the people that don’t want to believe the truth that it’s illegal to do some drugs sometimes end up in jail because they won’t conform to the laws

So if the same exact thing that happened to the frogs happened to your son, he’s the same exact son you raised, he still identifies as your son, but biologically because of chemicals in the water he is now technically physically a female, would you go against his wishes of him identifying as a male, and would you start referring to him as your daughter?

 

[Doublestandards]

You're trying to defend men who think they're women in their heads but are not biologically women by citing something that has never happened in humans: a biological sex swap with the brain and thoughts remaining the same.

How do you know the same thing that happened to the frogs didn’t happen to the fetus in the womb?

It’s a philosophical discussion

 

[Thebrownblob]

So if the same exact thing that happened to the frogs happened to your son, he’s the same exact son you raised, he still identifies as your son, but biologically because of chemicals in the water he is now technically physically a female, would you go against his wishes of him identifying as a male, and would you start referring to him as your daughter?

No, I would never go against scientific evidence that you’re a male . I would, however help him as much as possible to try and figure out what kind of chemicals caused this and who to sue and what to do about it.

 

[Darmark7]

 

[Doublestandards]

No, I would never go against scientific evidence that you’re a male . I would, however help him as much as possible to try and figure out what kind of chemicals caused this and who to sue and what to do about it.

Sorry if I got it wrong, but you’re saying if “scientifically” he was now technically a female biologically, but in his brain he’s still a man like he’s always felt, it’s only his physical biological structure that changed, but he still identified as a man and wishes to be addressed as a man, you would instead identify and address him as a woman because that what his body shows?

You would introduce him as your daughter?

 

[Gotta Go]

 

[Box Ox]

You're trying to defend men who think they're women in their heads but are not biologically women by citing something that has never happened in humans: a biological sex swap with the brain and thoughts remaining the same.

How do you know the same thing that happened to the frogs didn’t happen to the fetus in the womb?

How could the frog thing happen to a fetus in the womb?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Sorry if I got it wrong, but you’re saying if “scientifically” he was now technically a female biologically, but in his brain he’s still a man like he’s always felt, it’s only his physical biological structure that changed, but he still identified as a man and wishes to be addressed as a man, you would instead identify and address him as a woman because that what his body shows?

You would introduce him as your daughter?

No


“And therein we find, neglected by us, the simplest, the most accessible key to our liberation: a personal nonparticipation in lies! Even if all is covered by lies, even if all is under their rule, let us resist in the smallest way: Let their rule hold not through me!

And this is the way to break out of the imaginary encirclement of our inertness, the easiest way for us and the most devastating for the lies. For when people renounce lies, lies simply cease to exist. Like parasites, they can only survive when attached to a person.”

Live not by lies

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

 

[vantexan]

Yes, you are.

Have you been peeking again?

 

[Next Day Err]

How could the frog thing happen to a fetus in the womb?

Because we all know there’s no such thing as genetic problems or diversity that ever arise inside a womb.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Sorry if I got it wrong, but you’re saying if “scientifically” he was now technically a female biologically, but in his brain he’s still a man like he’s always felt, it’s only his physical biological structure that changed, but he still identified as a man and wishes to be addressed as a man, you would instead identify and address him as a woman because that what his body shows?

You would introduce him as your daughter?

Nope, not what I said at all I said I would not go against what he scientifically is a male. I would do just like I always do as a parent. My kid is harmed by some sort of medicine or chemical. I would try to help find out who did it, but we can do about it and make the person or person involved in harming him pay for it.

 

[Thebrownblob]

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$4.99 for 18 at Costco today down from $6.99 a couple weeks ago when I was there last time.

 

[Box Ox]

if the same exact thing that happened to the frogs happened to your son, he’s the same exact son you raised, he still identifies as your son, but biologically because of chemicals in the water he is now technically physically a female, would you go against his wishes of him identifying as a male, and would you start referring to him as your daughter?

No, I would never go against scientific evidence that you’re a male . I would, however help him as much as possible to try and figure out what kind of chemicals caused this and who to sue and what to do about it.

Not one person in human history has had their biology changed from male to female.

It’s a philosophical discussion

Indeed, sir.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Not one person in human history has had their biology changed from male to female.



Indeed, sir.

Correct. His question to me was if my son felt that way because of some damaged into his hormones or mental state because of medicine or chemicals. Kind of like what the left is doing to their kids now chemical castration and what not.