THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

Thebrownblob

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And that could be why J6 rioters don’t understand their arrest. Then again…

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You certainly seem to display some sort of moral piety. I wonder how you felt when people were burning and looting across the country in 2020.

I wonder how you felt as they were attacking the Portland courthouse? I’m going to guess you felt it was justified. Or at the very least made excuses.
 

bbsam

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If indeed they were arresting Trump for breaking the law, I would’ve agreed. As it stands, they’re going to have to arrest every CEO of every company who has a contract to pay off someone to keep their mouth shut.
No they don’t. Maybe in a perfect world, but prosecutors decide when to convene grand juries all the time. It’s a hard sell to say that a prosecution can’t be justified and politically motivated at the same time.

What do all those other CEO’s do that Trump doesn’t? They take their attorneys advice and they shut up. The Donald isn’t capable of that.
 

Thebrownblob

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No they don’t. Maybe in a perfect world, but prosecutors decide when to convene grand juries all the time. It’s a hard sell to say that a prosecution can’t be justified and politically motivated at the same time.

What do all those other CEO’s do that Trump doesn’t? They take their attorneys advice and they shut up. The Donald isn’t capable of that.
If you say, this prosecution is anything more than nonsense, then your political driven ideologue.

Where is the real prosecution? I thought he was the leader of an insurrection and government overthrow L O L, such nonsense, you believe
 

bbsam

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You certainly seem to display some sort of moral piety. I wonder how you felt when people were burning and looting across the country in 2020.

I wonder how you felt as they were attacking the Portland courthouse? I’m going to guess you felt it was justified. Or at the very least made excuses.
I believe in peaceful protest. I recognize that sometimes protests become violent. When that happens, the justice system steps in. I have no problem with that at all. And people being violent and looting and committing arson…lock ‘em up! You’ve never heard me call for leniency for them or the J6 rioters. I don’t feel sorry for any of them.
 

bbsam

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If you say, this prosecution is anything more than nonsense, then your political driven ideologue.

Where is the real prosecution? I thought he was the leader of an insurrection and government overthrow L O L, such nonsense, you believe
Well Capone wasn’t taken down as a mob boss, was he? OJ didn’t go to prison for murder.

It could well be that it’s “nonsense” but it’s likely effective nonsense that probably 55% of republicans are quietly onboard with.
 

Thebrownblob

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I believe in peaceful protest. I recognize that sometimes protests become violent. When that happens, the justice system steps in. I have no problem with that at all. And people being violent and looting and committing arson…lock ‘em up! You’ve never heard me call for leniency for them or the J6 rioters. I don’t feel sorry for any of them.
The problem is most were not violent but harassed and prosecuted anyway, and I’m sure you were all for, your vice president leading the way of bailing them out of jail.
 

Thebrownblob

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Well Capone wasn’t taken down as a mob boss, was he? OJ didn’t go to prison for murder.

It could well be that it’s “nonsense” but it’s likely effective nonsense that probably 55% of republicans are quietly onboard with.
Oh, so you’re a sympathizer of Tierney excellent now I see where you’re coming from. Political payback, and the government purposely going after people they don’t like for their actions and politics. Basically you approve of everything that is wrong with our government. Thank you for letting me know.
Yoy and Trump have a lot in common? Throughout our history, presidents have not had this sort of legal action taken against them for a reason even if there was evidence to prove, they should be prosecuted you just approved opening the door to this kind of tit for tat from both sides from here forward. Congratulations. It won’t end well.
 

Thebrownblob

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Why hasn’t your vice president done the same?
My vice president is Kamala Harris. I don’t like her, but it still is what it is.
And Trump kept his mouth shut for quite some time while people who supported him suffered. I unlike yourself can do this through the lens of clarity. I can see January 6 was nonsense, and the people who caused damage should be handled in a reasonable and legal manner. But I can also clearly see it was not planned, and it was not an insurrection, but a protest that got out of hand.

I can also see with clarity, Joe Biden, and Donald Trump are both poison to the political system.
 

oldngray

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I don’t think Bail was an option for most of those people because they were imprisoned illegally. Political prisoners, without the right to a fair and speedy trial.
Some have been locked up without a trial for longer than their maximum sentences would be if they were ever tried and convicted.
 

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What you're worried about is Trump not only taking the abuse but coming back for more.
We go around the same bush at least once a month,so lets do it again: Trump has proven himself to be easily defeated, and now in 2023 his support (aside from his fanatical die hard base) is dwindling by the day. Odds are very good he wont get very far in the primaries,much less secure the nomination.

He has shown he is a very poor loser and it will be entertaining watching him bring down the GOP.


Do you feel better that we have made yet another lap around this bush?
 

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Some have been locked up without a trial for longer than their maximum sentences would be if they were ever tried and convicted.
If you cant do the time dont do the crime.

It's hard to feel sympathy for these people that tried to overthrow the election
 

oldngray

nowhere special
If you cant do the time dont do the crime.

It's hard to feel sympathy for these people that tried to overthrow the election
What crimes have they been convicted of? What happened to the right to a speedy trial?

Videos from the J6 committee are not proof of guilt.
 

bbsam

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Oh, so you’re a sympathizer of Tierney excellent now I see where you’re coming from. Political payback, and the government purposely going after people they don’t like for their actions and politics. Basically you approve of everything that is wrong with our government. Thank you for letting me know.
Yoy and Trump have a lot in common? Throughout our history, presidents have not had this sort of legal action taken against them for a reason even if there was evidence to prove, they should be prosecuted you just approved opening the door to this kind of tit for tat from both sides from here forward. Congratulations. It won’t end well.
Lol. Talk of indicting Trump wouldn’t even be happening without the “wink and nod” from establishment republicans. They’ve rode that horse as far as they could and it’s time to put it down. They are more than thrilled to have democrats do it for them.

Do i approve? Apathetic mainly. Swamp creatures engaging in battle. Godzilla vs Mothra. Political theater at it’s finest. One day I hope they accidentally break the two party system and something else gets built.
 

bbsam

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Some have been locked up without a trial for longer than their maximum sentences would be if they were ever tried and convicted.
Isn’t it fascinating that there haven’t been motions filed, rulings made, appeals to higher courts and directions given from those higher courts?

It’s like the entire justice system has told them, “Sit down. Shut up. We’ll get to you when we’re damn good and ready.” It’s almost like one of the branches of government is offended at being appealed to to save the asses that wanted to impede the peaceful transfer of power. Like they’re absolutely fine slow walking the entire process in order to twist the dagger. Maybe they don’t really care if they lose on appeal or even if they get a conviction.

At the end of the day, maybe they shrug their shoulders and say, “Message sent.”
 

vantexan

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I would be fine with video of me showing up to city hall and speaking at a council meeting.

Now if things got heated an hour later and hands are thrown, chairs overturned, obscenities screamed, all of which I take part in, how does the law abiding part negate the criminal acts?
Your scenario isn't comparable. The narrative was that "insurrectionists" tried to take over the Federal government and harm major elected officials. The video doesn't support that. Most of the violence, with no guns or knives, occurred outside. Very little occurred inside and the most violence inside was committed by a Capitol policeman who shot and killed a physically small, unarmed woman who was climbing through a window while he nor 5 or 6 other policemen made no attempt to stop her.
 

vantexan

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Isn’t it fascinating that there haven’t been motions filed, rulings made, appeals to higher courts and directions given from those higher courts?

It’s like the entire justice system has told them, “Sit down. Shut up. We’ll get to you when we’re damn good and ready.” It’s almost like one of the branches of government is offended at being appealed to to save the asses that wanted to impede the peaceful transfer of power. Like they’re absolutely fine slow walking the entire process in order to twist the dagger. Maybe they don’t really care if they lose on appeal or even if they get a conviction.

At the end of the day, maybe they shrug their shoulders and say, “Message sent.”
You assume you know how those held feel about it. Your fellow citizens are having their Constitutional rights trampled on. If the day comes that the government controlled by people you disagree with tramples on your rights you may have an epiphany. Maybe.
 
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vantexan

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We go around the same bush at least once a month,so lets do it again: Trump has proven himself to be easily defeated, and now in 2023 his support (aside from his fanatical die hard base) is dwindling by the day. Odds are very good he wont get very far in the primaries,much less secure the nomination.

He has shown he is a very poor loser and it will be entertaining watching him bring down the GOP.


Do you feel better that we have made yet another lap around this bush?
Easily defeated? He had 75 million votes. I worry about him from the opposite direction. While you hope he splits the vote if he doesn't get the nomination I worry that he'll take his support with him as a third party candidate and ruin the Republicans chances of winning in '24.
 
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