THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

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You don't seem to understand the meaning of weaponized. The AG/FBI/DOJ are using government resources to try and stop the president's likely opponent in '24.
This investigation and likely deal-making or conviction will only hurt the Democrats… assuming all the rats don’t jump ship and actually distance themselves from Trump.

Trump is the easiest to beat in a general election. Know how I know?

Because Dems did it once already. :)
 

vantexan

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This investigation and likely deal-making or conviction will only hurt the Democrats… assuming all the rats don’t jump ship and actually distance themselves from Trump.

Trump is the easiest to beat in a general election. Know how I know?

Because Dems did it once already. :)
Good luck.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Cool, show me what you evidence you think the FBI has on him…
There is a 1023 report, an FBI document, generated by an informant in 2020, about a $5 million payout in 2012 by a Romanian national that was wired to 9 members of the Biden family through 20 shell companies. The transfers were sent right after Joe left Romania on Air Force 2. These wire transfers were flagged by the banks involved as suspicious activity. The informant involved has been used by the FBI for 13 years and has been paid $200,000 over that time. A whistleblower alerted the House Oversight Committee chairman, James Comer, of the Form 1023's existence. Comer and Senator Chuck Grassley examined the form after having to threaten FBI Director Christopher Wray with contempt of Congress. When they examined it they found 2 footnotes on it referencing other FBI 1023 forms. That's when they found out from those 1023's that the Ukrainian oil and gas firm, Burisma, had paid $5 million to Joe and $5 million to Hunter and, get this, the informant had recordings given to him by a Burisma executive of Joe and Hunter discussing the deal with Burisma exec's. We all know that Joe flew in threatened to withhold a billion in aid from Ukraine if Zelensky didn't fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma for corruption.

They've, the House Oversight Committee, also turned up $10 million in wire transfers to Biden family members involving 2 banks and they're currently examining the records of other banks. Comer is estimating tens of millions of dollars are involved.

Seriously, do you want to see our elected leaders held accountable for corruption if there's proof, or are you wanting to let it slide if they're Democrats?
 

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There is a 1023 report, an FBI document, generated by an informant in 2020, about a $5 million payout in 2012 by a Romanian national that was wired to 9 members of the Biden family through 20 shell companies. The transfers were sent right after Joe left Romania on Air Force 2. These wire transfers were flagged by the banks involved as suspicious activity. The informant involved has been used by the FBI for 13 years and has been paid $200,000 over that time. A whistleblower alerted the House Oversight Committee chairman, James Comer, of the Form 1023's existence. Comer and Senator Chuck Grassley examined the form after having to threaten FBI Director Christopher Wray with contempt of Congress. When they examined it they found 2 footnotes on it referencing other FBI 1023 forms. That's when they found out from those 1023's that the Ukrainian oil and gas firm, Burisma, had paid $5 million to Joe and $5 million to Hunter and, get this, the informant had recordings given to him by a Burisma executive of Joe and Hunter discussing the deal with Burisma exec's. We all know that Joe flew in threatened to withhold a billion in aid from Ukraine if Zelensky didn't fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma for corruption.

They've, the House Oversight Committee, also turned up $10 million in wire transfers to Biden family members involving 2 banks and they're currently examining the records of other banks. Comer is estimating tens of millions of dollars are involved.

Seriously, do you want to see our elected leaders held accountable for corruption if there's proof, or are you wanting to let it slide if they're Democrats?
You’re making this big claim. Show me the actual evidence.

Because I can show you the 49-page federal indictment that lays out the government’s case against Trump with a single link. Now you go.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
There is a 1023 report, an FBI document, generated by an informant in 2020, about a $5 million payout in 2012 by a Romanian national that was wired to 9 members of the Biden family through 20 shell companies. The transfers were sent right after Joe left Romania on Air Force 2. These wire transfers were flagged by the banks involved as suspicious activity. The informant involved has been used by the FBI for 13 years and has been paid $200,000 over that time. A whistleblower alerted the House Oversight Committee chairman, James Comer, of the Form 1023's existence. Comer and Senator Chuck Grassley examined the form after having to threaten FBI Director Christopher Wray with contempt of Congress. When they examined it they found 2 footnotes on it referencing other FBI 1023 forms. That's when they found out from those 1023's that the Ukrainian oil and gas firm, Burisma, had paid $5 million to Joe and $5 million to Hunter and, get this, the informant had recordings given to him by a Burisma executive of Joe and Hunter discussing the deal with Burisma exec's. We all know that Joe flew in threatened to withhold a billion in aid from Ukraine if Zelensky didn't fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma for corruption.

They've, the House Oversight Committee, also turned up $10 million in wire transfers to Biden family members involving 2 banks and they're currently examining the records of other banks. Comer is estimating tens of millions of dollars are involved.

Seriously, do you want to see our elected leaders held accountable for corruption if there's proof, or are you wanting to let it slide if they're Democrats?
1. What are the names of the "shell companies"?
2. If the banks flagged the payments were the transactions still completed?
3. Was the information provided by the informant corroborated and thus deemed accurate?

I'm not saying that your report lacks credibility, what I 'm questioning is whether or not DOJ believes that it's sufficient to gain a conviction and thus file a indictment.
In the world of today you would be very hard pressed to find a person of wealth and political power who doesn't have at least a few dirty deeds done dirt cheap tied to their past. It's always a question of whether or not it rises to the level of a federal indictment and what the odds are of gaining a conviction.

It's quite obvious that you seek some form of retaliation against Biden in an effort to make you feel better. Then again the Trump DOJ had plenty of time and opportunity to indict the Biden's but chose not to. Why not?

As former DOJ official John Bolton noted what makes the Trump indictment so damning is because of it's high concentration on the facts and evidence referring to it as "a bullet" rather than "just something thrown against the wall and hope it will stick".
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
In the world of today you would be very hard pressed to find a person of wealth and political power who doesn't have at least a few dirty deeds done dirt cheap tied to their past.
It's quite obvious that you seek some form of retaliation against Biden in an effort to make you feel better. Then again the Trump DOJ had plenty of time and opportunity to indict the Biden's but chose not to. Why not?
Making excuses for the Biden family's crimes.
Shocking.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
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vantexan

Well-Known Member
1. What are the names of the "shell companies"?
2. If the banks flagged the payments were the transactions still completed?
3. Was the information provided by the informant corroborated and thus deemed accurate?

I'm not saying that your report lacks credibility, what I 'm questioning is whether or not DOJ believes that it's sufficient to gain a conviction and thus file a indictment.
In the world of today you would be very hard pressed to find a person of wealth and political power who doesn't have at least a few dirty deeds done dirt cheap tied to their past. It's always a question of whether or not it rises to the level of a federal indictment and what the odds are of gaining a conviction.

It's quite obvious that you seek some form of retaliation against Biden in an effort to make you feel better. Then again the Trump DOJ had plenty of time and opportunity to indict the Biden's but chose not to. Why not?

As former DOJ official John Bolton noted what makes the Trump indictment so damning is because of it's high concentration on the facts and evidence referring to it as "a bullet" rather than "just something thrown against the wall and hope it will stick".
Why would I know the names of the shell companies? The Oversight Committee in its investigation discovered them. They were set up by the Bidens and don't have any reason for existence other than to launder money to the Bidens.

Banks are required by law to pass on to the government any transactions that appear to be irregular or suspicious. Has to do with tracking money laundering, especially of drug money. If a payment of $10,000 or more is wired to an individual it gets flagged. That gives the government a clue as to who they should investigate.

The informant has been working with the FBI for over 13 years and was paid a total of about $200,000 for his information according to Senator Chuck Grassley. This person didn't contact Congress, an FBI whistleblower did. The whistleblower went to Congress because he saw that the FBI had this information and sat on it.

We aren't talking about a few dirty deeds. We're talking about the Vice-president of the U.S. soliciting bribes to provide favorable actions to foreign nationals. It's highly illegal and in this case is extraordinary in its scope. Joe Biden was put in charge of government policy concerning a number of nations and it appears he received very large amounts of money personally from those nations he was put in charge of. And created a bunch of phony shell companies to hide the payments that were sent to members of his family.

You're always after me about taxes. They received tens of millions of dollars. Bet they didn't pay taxes on it.

You want to totally discount the pay to pay influence peddling schemes of Hillary and Joe while trying to find anything to destroy Trump. If Trump broke the law prosecute him. Same for every politician, no matter the party. But that's not happening, now is it?
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
There is a 1023 report, an FBI document, generated by an informant in 2020, about a $5 million payout in 2012 by a Romanian national that was wired to 9 members of the Biden family through 20 shell companies. The transfers were sent right after Joe left Romania on Air Force 2. These wire transfers were flagged by the banks involved as suspicious activity. The informant involved has been used by the FBI for 13 years and has been paid $200,000 over that time. A whistleblower alerted the House Oversight Committee chairman, James Comer, of the Form 1023's existence. Comer and Senator Chuck Grassley examined the form after having to threaten FBI Director Christopher Wray with contempt of Congress. When they examined it they found 2 footnotes on it referencing other FBI 1023 forms. That's when they found out from those 1023's that the Ukrainian oil and gas firm, Burisma, had paid $5 million to Joe and $5 million to Hunter and, get this, the informant had recordings given to him by a Burisma executive of Joe and Hunter discussing the deal with Burisma exec's. We all know that Joe flew in threatened to withhold a billion in aid from Ukraine if Zelensky didn't fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma for corruption.

They've, the House Oversight Committee, also turned up $10 million in wire transfers to Biden family members involving 2 banks and they're currently examining the records of other banks. Comer is estimating tens of millions of dollars are involved.

Seriously, do you want to see our elected leaders held accountable for corruption if there's proof, or are you wanting to let it slide if they're Democrats?
I've seen this reported on exactly ONE outlet, and that's FOX News. If he's guilty, he needs to be charged and held accountable as well, but how about some proof.
 

vantexan

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You’d agree that they’re black birthing persons if they told you that they identify as such, right?
Nah, white conservatives don't qualify. I'm going to identify as a black twenty something with exceptional basketball skills so that I can play in the NBA next year. If that doesn't pan out I'm heading to California to shop lift X amount of stuff every day to augment my retirement funds.
 
I’m on the ground here in Miami, and we need more people if we are going to stop this madness. Hopefully the fit people will show up soon. There’s a lot of obese people here, not sure what they can do besides sweat.
 

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Trump supporters' logic:

The documents were planted, but if they weren't - they are his.

And he declassified them. With his mind.

Except for when he told that person on tape that he didn't declassify them. And when he told another person they were secret.

Except he was kidding.

And Biden and Hillary did the exact same thing, someone on Fox News said, but that doesn't matter because Jack Smith's wife made political donations once.

And did you know George Soros funds prosecutors?
 
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