This is FedEx

thedownhillEXPRESS

Well-Known Member
What a way to start off the morning. Someone should have recorded the meeting and sent it to Memphis. Makes me sick....

Memphis?

Memphis would have given the managers all a giant raise!

This is coming from the top, they need people to quit and want it this way.

Memphis isn't some righteous land of scales and balance, it's a fiery pit of corporate evil.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Memphis?

Memphis would have given the managers all a giant raise!

This is coming from the top, they need people to quit and want it this way.

Memphis isn't some righteous land of scales and balance, it's a fiery pit of corporate evil.

Fred S is Satan, and MT3 is his faithful sizzling assistant. The hands are the giveaway (sign of the devil).
 

Ricochet1a

Well-Known Member
What a way to start off the morning. Someone should have recorded the meeting and sent it to Memphis. Makes me sick....

If someone would've recorded the meeting and turned over the recording to Express management rather than their council, that employees would've been subjected to potential termination for unauthorized use of an electronic recording device on Express property and time. There is a reason why electronic recording of events is prohibited in Express - the event illustrated in this thread more than demonstrates why.

The KoolAid drinkers need to awake from their stupor and realize that THIS is the Express of 2012 - not the Candy Land vision they have somewhere in their head.

The wage employees of Express also need to get off their asses and decide that they have nothing to lose at this point and start signing those damn union cards. It never ceases to amaze me, things keep on going down hill and all that is going on, is endless talk, debating the shills and stooges and going round and round in circles.

The shills and stooges do have something right - either do something about the situation, or learn to accept it (get a mega-tube of lube and apply liberally).

It's only going to get worse... and

There are going to be more and more stooges come on here and try to tell everyone that Candy Land still exists in Express.

Debating them won't change a damn thing for you.

Signing that union card and getting those in your station to sign one too, may just give you a way to have a real voice in ending the crap.
 

GoodGrief

Well-Known Member
If someone would've recorded the meeting and turned over the recording to Express management rather than their council, that employees would've been subjected to potential termination for unauthorized use of an electronic recording device on Express property and time. There is a reason why electronic recording of events is prohibited in Express - the event illustrated in this thread more than demonstrates why.

The KoolAid drinkers need to awake from their stupor and realize that THIS is the Express of 2012 - not the Candy Land vision they have somewhere in their head.

The wage employees of Express also need to get off their asses and decide that they have nothing to lose at this point and start signing those damn union cards. It never ceases to amaze me, things keep on going down hill and all that is going on, is endless talk, debating the shills and stooges and going round and round in circles.

The shills and stooges do have something right - either do something about the situation, or learn to accept it (get a mega-tube of lube and apply liberally).

It's only going to get worse... and

There are going to be more and more stooges come on here and try to tell everyone that Candy Land still exists in Express.

Debating them won't change a damn thing for you.

Signing that union card and getting those in your station to sign one too, may just give you a way to have a real voice in ending the crap.

No, you're not paranoid...everybody really are out to get you!
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
I'm gonna go ahead and speak on behalf of 59dano, FedEx4life, and whoever else sticks up for FedEx through thick and thin. Maybe it'll save them the time of having to post on this one. "You idiot couriers have no idea what goes on in this company. Blah blah blah.. You're lucky to be here blah blah blah ...Manangers don't make mistakes, couriers are just stupid blah blah blah.. Let's get together and watch purple sunsets through our purple sunglasses. It's so pretty.. Maybe If we ask Fred nicely, he'll give us purple and green rainbows! Come on everybody things are looking up!

The proper response is to absolutely destroy them on the SFA. Of course, half the people here claim that they don't even take the SFA because they think (wrongly) that the manager suffers more from an employee who doesn't take the SFA than one who gives him a bad score. Until then, work-to-rule to CYA.

Maybe you should pay attention instead of showing off your ignorance.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
The proper response is to absolutely destroy them on the SFA. Of course, half the people here claim that they don't even take the SFA because they think (wrongly) that the manager suffers more from an employee who doesn't take the SFA than one who gives him a bad score. Until then, work-to-rule to CYA.

Maybe you should pay attention instead of showing off your ignorance.

The SFA is worthless. Talk about "showing ignorance:.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Maybe those couriers should be more professional and do the job correctly?

Right, none of the couriers are doing anything right. Might come as a surprise to you, but most couriers I've known, and I've known hundreds, actually do try very hard to do the right thing and act professionally. We aren't doctors, lawyers, dentists, etc, but this is our career. So when we try our hardest, and the bar keeps getting raised while the rewards keep getting lowered, and are still crapped upon by management, it discourages, even hurts us. Any mgr who is asinine enough to say nothing is right deserves to have some old veterans drag his sorry ass out back and beat the stew out of him. Unfortunately it seems likely they want us to cross the line and make it easy to get rid of an employee.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
The proper response is to absolutely destroy them on the SFA. Of course, half the people here claim that they don't even take the SFA because they think (wrongly) that the manager suffers more from an employee who doesn't take the SFA than one who gives him a bad score. Until then, work-to-rule to CYA.

Maybe you should pay attention instead of showing off your ignorance.

I've taken many SFA's and nothing ever changed. But I've noticed a lot of angst in the last two years when I've chosen to not take it. It apparently does matter to someone when we don't take it. FedEx wants me to take the SFA? I want better pay. Maybe we can negotiate a trade.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
WOW, you're the one showing ignorance.....I've seen managers ripped to shreds with SFA, having to retrain and/or being demoted.

In your salaried, treated like an adult world. I'm beginning to suspect an ops mgr with a very high score ISN'T doing what the company wants.
 

Glorifiedpackmule

Well-Known Member
Right, none of the couriers are doing anything right. Might come as a surprise to you, but most couriers I've known, and I've known hundreds, actually do try very hard to do the right thing and act professionally. We aren't doctors, lawyers, dentists, etc, but this is our career. So when we try our hardest, and the bar keeps getting raised while the rewards keep getting lowered, and are still crapped upon by management, it discourages, even hurts us. Any mgr who is asinine enough to say nothing is right deserves to have some old veterans drag his sorry ass out back and beat the stew out of him. Unfortunately it seems likely they want us to cross the line and make it easy to get rid of an employee.

Things will one to a boil once Oktoberfest begins at FedEx. 1 more month! Let the fireworks begin.
 

STFXG

Well-Known Member
Maybe those couriers should be more professional and do the job correctly?

Right, none of the couriers are doing anything right. Might come as a surprise to you, but most couriers I've known, and I've known hundreds, actually do try very hard to do the right thing and act professionally. We aren't doctors, lawyers, dentists, etc, but this is our career. So when we try our hardest, and the bar keeps getting raised while the rewards keep getting lowered, and are still crapped upon by management, it discourages, even hurts us. Any mgr who is asinine enough to say nothing is right deserves to have some old veterans drag his sorry ass out back and beat the stew out of him. Unfortunately it seems likely they want us to cross the line and make it easy to get rid of an employee.

I think you missed my sarcasm...
 

DontThrowPackages

Well-Known Member
Today, we had a kind of long workgroup morning meeting due to a late plane due to weather.

As manager after manager after manager took turns to tell us what a crappy and awful job we are doing on safety, VIR compliance, how many staples are too many when turning in our paperwork, lates deliveries, SPH, sales leads, all-black shoes and not gray, on-time PUPs, sense of urgency during the reload, unloading of documents' crates after return to building, 1-hour obligatory lunch regardless hours worked, etc., etc., etc., then, when they finally quit talking, a peer curiosly asked the following question:

Are we doing ANYTHING right?

A few couriers starting to clap, (which they didnt like), for his bravery of standing up and asking THE question, and one of our younger, newer, louder, and stupier managers gave him this responce:

NOTHING! YOU GUYS AINT DOIN ANYTHING RIGHT!

So basically, we all suck at what we do.

Wow, so that's how FedEx treats its employees? What every happened to the SFA question: Does my manager treats me with respect...?

Now please, be realistic you manager Mr. Goofball. What does that do to the moral of the whole station? How do you think everyone felt? Him, and all our management team obviously can care less.

There you have it.

That is FedEx.

The attitude of the leadership always seems to change come SFA time. Less OLCC's, less handouts to sign and little talk about SPH. Once SFA is over, this is what you get. A good practices is to keep notes or a record of days just like today and hold onto them until SFA rolls around. And when the nice fairy sprinkles her happy, feel good, dusk around the station just around SFA time, take out your notes and Score the SFA as your notes dictate. Don't hold any punches, if management deserves it. I knew this one SM who was so bad, he had to be escorted to and from his car every morning by security. Thankfully he was relieved of his responsibilities.
The set of managers we currently have are actually doing a good job. The only thing that's bringing down our station down is the scare of cutting even more hours. Some, like me, are happily getting use to the current work schedule. Others are looking for a second job or a new job all together.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Things will one to a boil once Oktoberfest begins at FedEx. 1 more month! Let the fireworks begin.

They are currently purging high seniority/high SFA managers. Why? Simple, because they are highly paid, and with a high SFA score, they aren't likely to be fully on-board with the new Third Reich operating plan. They want managers who don't think, and just enforce rules and policy. "Enforcers" would be a more accurate term than "managers". Managers who get 100 on their SFAs aren't likely to be the browbeating tyrants Express currently wants. The manager who gets a 65 or a 70 is more their type...an A-hole that yells and screams and only gets 65-70 because people are afraid of retaliation.

I think we need to start "fragging". Some of you ex-military types will get it.
 

Goldilocks

Well-Known Member
The proper response is to absolutely destroy them on the SFA. Of course, half the people here claim that they don't even take the SFA because they think (wrongly) that the manager suffers more from an employee who doesn't take the SFA than one who gives him a bad score. Until then, work-to-rule to CYA.

Maybe you should pay attention instead of showing off your ignorance.

This is very true, I have seen managers demoted because of SFA. Except for this year, we have heard nothing about SFA. Rip those bad managers apart on SFA.
 

CharleyHustle

Well-Known Member
If someone would've recorded the meeting and turned over the recording to Express management rather than their council, that employees would've been subjected to potential termination for unauthorized use of an electronic recording device on Express property and time. There is a reason why electronic recording of events is prohibited in Express - the event illustrated in this thread more than demonstrates why.

The KoolAid drinkers need to awake from their stupor and realize that THIS is the Express of 2012 - not the Candy Land vision they have somewhere in their head.

The wage employees of Express also need to get off their asses and decide that they have nothing to lose at this point and start signing those damn union cards. It never ceases to amaze me, things keep on going down hill and all that is going on, is endless talk, debating the shills and stooges and going round and round in circles.

The shills and stooges do have something right - either do something about the situation, or learn to accept it (get a mega-tube of lube and apply liberally).

It's only going to get worse... and

There are going to be more and more stooges come on here and try to tell everyone that Candy Land still exists in Express.

Debating them won't change a damn thing for you.

Signing that union card and getting those in your station to sign one too, may just give you a way to have a real voice in ending the crap.

From the way it sounds by reading these threads and watching the actions of FedEx, it is most likely way to late to sign cards. By the time cards are signed and collected and a vote scheduled (face it the Teamsters or any other union is not remotely actively involved right now) and afterwards tabulated, and a negotiation timetable set up, all Express packages will already be shifted to Ground.

The time for action was when the company purchased RPS. The handwriting was on the wall and express drivers needed to organize to demand at least a share of that work.
 

Lordtekk

Well-Known Member
From the way it sounds by reading these threads and watching the actions of FedEx, it is most likely way to late to sign cards. By the time cards are signed and collected and a vote scheduled (face it the Teamsters or any other union is not remotely actively involved right now) and afterwards tabulated, and a negotiation timetable set up, all Express packages will already be shifted to Ground.

The time for action was when the company purchased RPS. The handwriting was on the wall and express drivers needed to organize to demand at least a share of that work.
I agree,but that does not mean something can not be done ? What I don't know,sickouts,slowdowns etc. I don't recommend those things but what can we do ?The union talk has been going around since my 1st day at Federal Express till this day at Fedex,but I have seen nothing to suggest that there will ever be one. We are under the RLA and the employees in this company are not unified enough to unionize nationally,so in reality this is being done because of our selfishness and every person for themselves attitude. Which is what the higher ups planned. Have to give it to them though they are smart. They relied on human nature to divide ourselves,and they were right. So Sad. Human Nature does us in.
 

LTFedExer

Well-Known Member
Rip those bad managers apart on SFA.
I've given nothing but decent, not great, scores on SFA's...........until this last one. It was the 'worst' in my 12 years. I made sure to remember/write down a whole bunch of stuff that happened. Lo and behold, a month before SFA things get better (as usual), but the damage was done.
 
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