Time To End The Shutdown?

[oldngray]

That's what I always though. I was surprised when this program said different. They did say the returning troops did speed up the spread when returning to the States.

That PBS show sounds like revisionist history.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

SD and mitigation is put in place....
not to stop the spread to any particular area
not to lower the number of overall total cases

It is to stop from having too many cases at once, which overwhelms the system and causes many more preventable deaths. IE Italy

it's working and has worked, to anyone with a brain and understands a basic concept

 

[MAKAVELI]

If more people would develop herd immunity it wouldn’t be as contagious. We can’t just bunker down for a year+.

Sure and end up like the 1918 pandemic. Are you volunteering to be infected so we can get a herd immunity?

 

[rod]

They have h1n1 vaccine rod. Calm down you been being a snowflake the last couple days over the wu flu.

I do tend to error on the side of caution with this virus crap. I don't believe running off to join the crowds at the beach or heading to a packed saloon is the best thing to do at this time.

 

[Wally]

Dr John A Lee

The fact is, Pandora’s Box is now open. This virus is spreading in the population. There is no evidence whatsoever that we are going to be able to put it back in its box. So it is going to spread through the population at a certain speed. And after a year or two, the number of people who are going to have died from it is probably going to be similar either way – it is just a question of the speed at which those people are dying.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

If mitigation slows the spread then ultimately less people die between developing a vaccine.

Very simple concept, not political or opinion

 

[MAKAVELI]

Very simple concept, not political or opinion

You would think so.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

SD and mitigation is put in place....
not to stop the spread to any particular area
not to lower the number of overall total cases

It is to stop from having too many cases at once, which overwhelms the system and causes many more preventable deaths. IE Italy

it's working and has worked, to anyone with a brain and understands a basic concept

Dr John A Lee

The fact is, Pandora’s Box is now open. This virus is spreading in the population. There is no evidence whatsoever that we are going to be able to put it back in its box. So it is going to spread through the population at a certain speed. And after a year or two, the number of people who are going to have died from it is probably going to be similar either way – it is just a question of the speed at which those people are dying.

hey you're getting it!!

 

[Wally]

hey you're getting it!!

Yep, open it up.

 

[rod]

That PBS show sounds like revisionist history.

The site of origin of the 1918 influenza pandemic and its public health implications
John M Barry

John M Barry
Distinguished Visiting Scholar, the Center for Bioenvironmental Research of Tulane and Xavier Universities, New Orleans, Louisiana USA

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Author information Article notes Copyright and License information Disclaimer
Distinguished Visiting Scholar, the Center for Bioenvironmental Research of Tulane and Xavier Universities, New Orleans, Louisiana USA
John M Barry, Email: ude.enalut@yrrabj.

Corresponding author.
Received 2004 Jan 11; Accepted 2004 Jan 20.
Keywords: Influenza, Bacterial Meningitis, Influenza Pandemic, Public Health Official, Influenza Outbreak
Copyright © Barry; licensee BioMed Central Ltd. 2004, This article is published under license to BioMed Central Ltd. This is an Open Access article: verbatim copying and redistribution of this article are permitted in all media for any purpose, provided this notice is preserved along with the article's original URL.
This article is made available via the PMC Open Access Subset for unrestricted research re-use and secondary analysis in any form or by any means with acknowledgement of the original source. These permissions are granted for the duration of the World Health Organization (WHO) declaration of COVID-19 as a global pandemic.
This article has been cited by other articles in PMC.

The 1918–1919 influenza pandemic killed more people than any other outbreak of disease in human history. The lowest estimate of the death toll is 21 million, while recent scholarship estimates from 50 to 100 million dead. World population was then only 28% what is today, and most deaths occurred in a sixteen week period, from mid-September to mid-December of 1918.

It has never been clear, however, where this pandemic began. Since influenza is an endemic disease, not simply an epidemic one, it is impossible to answer this question with absolute certainty. Nonetheless, in seven years of work on a history of the pandemic, this author conducted an extensive survey of contemporary medical and lay literature searching for epidemiological evidence – the only evidence available. That review suggests that the most likely site of origin was Haskell County, Kansas, an isolated and sparsely populated county in the southwest corner of the state, in January 1918 [1]. If this hypothesis is correct, it has public policy implications.


Well I guess there may be some truth to it.

 

[oldngray]

The site of origin of the 1918 influenza pandemic and its public health implications
John M Barry

John M Barry
Distinguished Visiting Scholar, the Center for Bioenvironmental Research of Tulane and Xavier Universities, New Orleans, Louisiana USA

Find articles by John M Barry
Author information Article notes Copyright and License information Disclaimer
Distinguished Visiting Scholar, the Center for Bioenvironmental Research of Tulane and Xavier Universities, New Orleans, Louisiana USA
John M Barry, Email: ude.enalut@yrrabj.

Corresponding author.
Received 2004 Jan 11; Accepted 2004 Jan 20.
Keywords: Influenza, Bacterial Meningitis, Influenza Pandemic, Public Health Official, Influenza Outbreak
Copyright © Barry; licensee BioMed Central Ltd. 2004, This article is published under license to BioMed Central Ltd. This is an Open Access article: verbatim copying and redistribution of this article are permitted in all media for any purpose, provided this notice is preserved along with the article's original URL.
This article is made available via the PMC Open Access Subset for unrestricted research re-use and secondary analysis in any form or by any means with acknowledgement of the original source. These permissions are granted for the duration of the World Health Organization (WHO) declaration of COVID-19 as a global pandemic.
This article has been cited by other articles in PMC.

The 1918–1919 influenza pandemic killed more people than any other outbreak of disease in human history. The lowest estimate of the death toll is 21 million, while recent scholarship estimates from 50 to 100 million dead. World population was then only 28% what is today, and most deaths occurred in a sixteen week period, from mid-September to mid-December of 1918.

It has never been clear, however, where this pandemic began. Since influenza is an endemic disease, not simply an epidemic one, it is impossible to answer this question with absolute certainty. Nonetheless, in seven years of work on a history of the pandemic, this author conducted an extensive survey of contemporary medical and lay literature searching for epidemiological evidence – the only evidence available. That review suggests that the most likely site of origin was Haskell County, Kansas, an isolated and sparsely populated county in the southwest corner of the state, in January 1918 [1]. If this hypothesis is correct, it has public policy implications.


Well I guess there may be some truth to it.

Sounds more like the author was trying to sell a book

 

[UnconTROLLed]

Yep, open it up.

I dont necessarily disagree with your opinion, lying or trolling that SD doesnt work is dumb though. But be dumb.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

1918 "Quite possibly" began in KS and some evidence may "suggest" it, but unlikely jmo.

 

[rod]

1918 "Quite possibly" began in KS and some evidence may "suggest" it, but unlikely jmo.

Just admit it -- you don't want to be known as the "bat eaters" of 1918. Blame it on anyone else.

 

[Wally]

I dont necessarily disagree with your opinion, lying or trolling that SD doesnt work is dumb though. But be dumb.

If it's working, why are cases spreading?

And as we open up, folk can still self isolate if they want.

 

[El Correcto]

I do tend to error on the side of caution with this virus crap. I don't believe running off to join the crowds at the beach or heading to a packed saloon is the best thing to do at this time.

You made the mistake of tuning into liberal programming geared towards spreading fear.
You keep this up and you’ll be leaving your wife for your boyfriend in no time.

 

[newfie]

Read and decide. It's not that hard.

I'll just go to the salon and type ice picks to remove my eyes with in the search bar

 

[newfie]

If mitigation slows the spread then ultimately less people die between developing a vaccine.

That's the hope. Developing an effective vaccine will help decide that outcome.

 

[newfie]

That PBS show sounds like revisionist history.

I like revisionist history. Soon all evidence of white atrocity before and during the civil war will dissapear and then blacks won't have to be angry at me anymore.

 

[newfie]

SD and mitigation is put in place....
not to stop the spread to any particular area
not to lower the number of overall total cases

It is to stop from having too many cases at once, which overwhelms the system and causes many more preventable deaths. IE Italy

it's working and has worked, to anyone with a brain and understands a basic concept

It's all mumbo jumbo. We still get 25000 new cases everyday and 2000 deaths. Yet everyone is isolated