Ukrainians be like:

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Why should I listen to either of you ?
Clearly you don't understand women's fashions.
She is not wearing a blue dress, it is a blue top with black leggings and no shoes.
She is picture standing in her living room in a relaxed mood while safely holding her Ak47.
Her name is Kira Rudik.
This is the translation of her FB post;
I am a Ukrainian woman. I love the colorful tulips, pilates, pink. Plant flowers, walk around the Andriívsʹkomu until the night, your cat Michelle. Smell new perfumes, laugh out loud, wear soft socks that are a little slippery on the floor. Wipe glasses, marshmallows with a napkin, lay documents by the alphabet.
And now everything I love needs protection. Because, it turns out that each of us should take arms and do our duty. Not because there are no men around, but because we can do it. And we will do it.
❤️
🇺🇦
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
At one time when we had sense we believed in peace through strength.

At the very least Europe will have to figure out what to do with millions of Ukranian refugees.
At the worse we may have to take military action to stop the russian advance into NATO.

We could have prevented this by simply responding to Putins build up by building up in equal proportions in the area and most importantly not giving Putin any reason to believe anything but the fact that even though the Ukraine was not part of NATO we would still be willing to take action to ensure regional stability and most importantly we considered all options to be on the table.
If you tell Putin that in no certain terms we would ensure a no fly zone in the area would he have gone in?
Just because he says he's willing to use Nukes to protect mother russia does not mean he's willing to esculate to nukes in response of a US ground or air offensive.

the trump doctrine continues to be the best game plan for the future. Let the dictator believe that you may just be crazy enough to use those damn things.

whatever you do never ever ever tell a tyrant what you will not do. In this case Biden told Putin he would not fight for the Ukraine. Big big mistake.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
President Bush tried to get the Germans to switch to LPG but they didn't want anything to do with it.
They are totally dependent on Russia supplying their fuels.
If you read their announcement about sending weapons to Ukraine, it was carefully worded to say that they would allow the Dutch to ship them.
As for France, everyone could take a lesson from them, they use nuclear power.

And since Putin never really encouraged Russia's economy to branch out into other sectors 60% of the country's income comes from oil. And one of their pipelines to the West run through Ukraine. Which Russia pays $2B a year in transit fees.
 

PCM Troll

Well-Known Member
Here's hoping Ukraine kills as many Russians as possible. They are doing what the pussified West could never do. May Ukraine's streets overflow with Russian blood
Ukrainians ARE Russian. They have been for over a thousand years. USA have no business getting involved
To not watch another democracy fall and to cut Putin off at the knees when it comes to his lofty expansionist ideals.

This requires intervention.
You actually think Ukraine is a democracy? It's as much of a democracy as Russia is.
 

floridays

Well-Known Member
Ukrainians ARE Russian. They have been for over a thousand years. USA have no business getting involved

You actually think Ukraine is a democracy? It's as much of a democracy as Russia is.
You like democracy?
We had no business in WWII in Europe then as well.
 

PCM Troll

Well-Known Member
No they aren't.
Are you English?
tack your boxes, drive your package car.
Leave thinking to those equipped.
Pretty stupid statement from someone who thinks they're so smart. That's like saying since you live in Florida, you can't be American. I used to think you were very intelligent but I see you are very ignorant.
 

floridays

Well-Known Member
Pretty stupid statement from someone who thinks they're so smart. That's like saying since you live in Florida, you can't be American. I used to think you were very intelligent but I see you are very ignorant.
Same guy, you just can't see the forest for the trees.
You'll come around and I'll still be as smart.

Simple question
How many African-Americans we got in this country?

If you can't figure it out I'll tell you.
 
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