PT Car Washer
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Right now it is looking more like a stalemate. Putin's Afghanistan or Viet Nam. Sure the Russians are blowing up a lot of stuff and killing a lot of civilians but militarily right now is a stalemate.
Ukrainians be like:
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MAKAVELI
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Losing thousands of soldiers including Generals and top officers, military weaponry, original objective, economy in free fall, and Russian citizens protesting is winning? Lol
DriveInDriѵeOut
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No it's not. You've been lied to by the garbage media you watch. He has the land he wanted. The land he was already ruling by proxy. The land that Biden and all of Europe basically told him they wouldn't do anything if he invaded.
At this point attacking the rest of the country is looking like a negotiation tactic for concessions that Ukraine won't join NATO, among other things.
DriveInDriѵeOut
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You think Russians care about how many soldiers they lose? This is how they fight, throwing soldiers into the meat the grinder.
That's been their prime military tactic for a hundred years. The current assault is cookie cutter playbook. Encircle, then slow brutal assault, just like Berlin. You're just speaking from a place of historical ignorance.
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MAKAVELI
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That's the Russian leadership playbook. Not the Russian citizens.
PT Car Washer
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Attack how? His troops are starving, his vehicles are either out of fuel or broke down, His air force is afraid to fly over Ukraine and are attacking from outside of its borders. Putin is begging China for food for his troops and more weapons. All from the worlds second largest arms dealer.
DriveInDriѵeOut
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You get your news from NPR you don't have any idea what you're talking about.
PT Car Washer
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I get my news from many sources. Plus my 22 years in uniform gives me a bit of insight into the common soldier on the ground.
DriveInDriѵeOut
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22 years as a Russian soldier, okay that actually explains your trolling here. Carry on comrade.
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
"Hurr Durr I stand with Ukraine.
But also we don't have to help them because Putin is actually losing hurr durr."
These are the delusions these Democrats have to hold in order to back the Biden regime's obviously terrible foreign policy.
But also we don't have to help them because Putin is actually losing hurr durr."
These are the delusions these Democrats have to hold in order to back the Biden regime's obviously terrible foreign policy.
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
Putin is probably going to walk away from Kiev with control of the regions he wanted, guarantees they won't join NATO, and Russian lackeys embedded in the Ukrainian government.
He's literally getting everything he wanted and Democrats are going to back off on sanctions and spin it as a win because nukes weren't used. And their sheep voters will parrot that narrative.
He's literally getting everything he wanted and Democrats are going to back off on sanctions and spin it as a win because nukes weren't used. And their sheep voters will parrot that narrative.
MAKAVELI
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He's only guaranteeing Ukraine's eventual membership. He's no longer a leader of a world power, but a war criminal dictator. His days are numbered.
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
You're either uninformed or misinformed.
Probably both.
Zelenskyy has already signaled willingness to concede not to join NATO. He'll probably let Russian supporters have seats in his government too.
He doesn't have any cards to play because Europe and weak ass Democrats don't actually have his back.
MAKAVELI
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They most certainly have his back. Without NATO and the US Ukraine would already be under Putin's control.
PT Car Washer
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I understand that you don't comprehend that there is a common bond between all soldiers regardless of their nationality. Go back to your video games.
PT Car Washer
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Don't underestimate a soldiers willingness to defend their country. Of course NATO's willingness to back Ukraine both with weapons and economic sanctions is unprecedented.
MAKAVELI
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More Russian troops and officers have been killed in a month than 20 years of the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. Lol
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
Cool irrelevant statistic bro.
Was that a MSNBC headline today or something?
MAKAVELI
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Oh I don't underestimate their resolve. But without our resources they wouldn't stand a chance.
MAKAVELI
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Sorry to hurt your feelings, Fren.
