Ukrainians be like:
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Lineandinitial
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Yet you don’t believe this?Right. My numbers are what pro-Kremlin/Putin news outlet Readovka posted after sitting in a closed briefing and your numbers are exactly what the Russian government is claiming publicly. So it's not difficult to know what you've been reading.
I wonder which one is closer to the truth. Hmmmmmm!
1 dead and 27 missing after Russian flagship Moskva sunk in Black Sea, Russia says
At least one person was killed and another 27 are missing after the Moskva, the flagship of Russia's Black Sea fleet, sunk earlier this month, according to Russian state media.
www.cnn.com
Yet you don’t believe this?
1 dead and 27 missing after Russian flagship Moskva sunk in Black Sea, Russia says
At least one person was killed and another 27 are missing after the Moskva, the flagship of Russia's Black Sea fleet, sunk earlier this month, according to Russian state media.
Nothing I haven't already been saying.
"At least one person was killed and another 27 are missing after the Moskva, the flagship of Russia's Black Sea fleet, sunk earlier this month, according to Russian state media."
Lineandinitial
Legio patria nostra
Nothing I haven't already been saying.
I get you guys mixed up….
Maybe it was that other misinformed person that falls for clever catch phrases and staged pictures.
I get you guys mixed up….
Yah, but you know better. Weren't there, but you know better. What would the Russians gain by putting out highly inflated numbers if your numbers are right? And why is it believing the Russian numbers is ludicrous while your numbers are the gospel truth? Because some off the wall white supremacist website told you? How would they know? Go ahead, roll on the floor some more.Well, some people will believe anything they are told.....LOL
I just posted what Readovka posted. And they love a good daddy dictator who "supports Christian conservative values" just as much as you and @BigGuy2732 do.
Lineandinitial
Legio patria nostra
Sorry, but 5 million refugees, tens of thousands dead or wounded, at least one whole city completely destroyed, vs a guy who's tired of us supporting the side being attacked and thinks Putin is great. I have read there were Americans who supported Hitler too but it's hard to fathom why.
Don’t believe everything you read. You’re embarrassing yourself.
Lineandinitial
Legio patria nostra
None of that is verified. Look at the UN site and ask yourself where all the photos of these tens of thousands are.....
You've probably never been around 10 people killed in battle, so you don't even know what you're looking for...LOL
BTW, I never said Putin was great or anything about him in that context, so either find where I did or you'll just be labeled a
ing liar....Your move cookie
None of that is verified. Look at the UN site and ask yourself where all the photos of these tens of thousands are.....
You've probably never been around 10 people killed in battle, so you don't even know what you're looking for...LOL
BTW, I never said Putin was great or anything about him in that context, so either find where I did or you'll just be labeled a
Your move cookie
When you said you were tired of the media saying how evil Putin is I guess I just took it that you don't see him as that evil. Pardon me if I characterized you the wrong way. But it does seem like you're in denial about the severity of the invasion on Ukrainians. It does seem to me that the media has already tired of that war to some extent and have moved on to other things. Russia has moved away from the capital and there doesn't seem to be as much fresh news. But I do know this. You have no more access to what's going on there than I do. I take what I'm being told and shown by a news outlet I trust on face value until proven otherwise. You seem to believe it's all some grand scheme to manipulate us and they're all in on it. Nothing can be believed. I certainly hope we aren't at that point but I too might believe that if I was being told that by some websites who only want you to believe the conspiracy theories they put forth. And that is absolutely 100% being manipulated. Lots of hate, lots of agendas online. People can say anything but I will continue to trust my lying eyes when I see a whole city bombed out and mass graves everywhere.I’m getting sick & tired of seeing Zelenskyy on the US “news” multiple times each day; the BS videos of “bodies” strewn throughout Ukrainian cities; how evil Putin is; Dementia Joe’s “tuff stand”; and the “brave” Ukrainian people fighting for US aid!
GMAFB!
No doubt there’s a conflict over their…THAT IS THEIRS!
All the pathetic liberals who are “Standing with Ukraine” are so
This country is
Lineandinitial
Legio patria nostra
This is a good comment. I’m sick of the media that puts out only what has been referred to as their “narrative” over the last 15+ months.
True, I’m not there, but been in plenty of situations to know when something doesn’t add up.
Like this.
Where’s the bodies?
They've been tossing bodies into mass graves. Otherwise they run the risk of disease.
Lineandinitial
Legio patria nostra
Oh come on.......so no one......no one took any photos or actually hundreds of photos of these victims being tossed into the "mass graves" as seen from space????
You don't think that is odd?
Lineandinitial
Legio patria nostra
Why does the OHCHR only state that 2500 people have been killed so far?
She allegedly states that the "real numbers' will be higher....so is the UN reporting fake numbers?
It's also nice of the Russians to have placed flowers at the "mass graves" referenced and also placing those individual "mass graves" in a church cemetery...
This just does not reflect actual battle or the "Horrors" the Russians are allegedly committing.
I'm certainly not siding with Russia (even though the West incited this whole thing), but what is being "reported" is full of holes and subject to close scrutiny. I won't believe it until something more than obvious propaganda is "reported".
www.spamchronicles.com
She allegedly states that the "real numbers' will be higher....so is the UN reporting fake numbers?
It's also nice of the Russians to have placed flowers at the "mass graves" referenced and also placing those individual "mass graves" in a church cemetery...
This just does not reflect actual battle or the "Horrors" the Russians are allegedly committing.
I'm certainly not siding with Russia (even though the West incited this whole thing), but what is being "reported" is full of holes and subject to close scrutiny. I won't believe it until something more than obvious propaganda is "reported".
War In Ukraine: Boutcha, Mass Graves... Russia Accused Of Hiding Its Military Crimes
Satellite images show "the existence of mass graves in northwest Manhouch," near the besieged city of Mariupol, Le Monde reported on Friday.
www.spamchronicles.com
Never said the Russians are burying Ukrainians. The Ukrainians are putting bodies into mass graves. Often the bodies are unrecognizable or there's no time for a normal burial. The estimates given were from what U.N. observers were able to see for themselves. They're not in the middle of fighting counting bodies.Why does the OHCHR only state that 2500 people have been killed so far?
She allegedly states that the "real numbers' will be higher....so is the UN reporting fake numbers?
It's also nice of the Russians to have placed flowers at the "mass graves" referenced and also placing those individual "mass graves" in a church cemetery...
This just does not reflect actual battle or the "Horrors" the Russians are allegedly committing.
I'm certainly not siding with Russia (even though the West incited this whole thing), but what is being "reported" is full of holes and subject to close scrutiny. I won't believe it until something more than obvious propaganda is "reported".
War In Ukraine: Boutcha, Mass Graves... Russia Accused Of Hiding Its Military Crimes
Satellite images show "the existence of mass graves in northwest Manhouch," near the besieged city of Mariupol, Le Monde reported on Friday.
Lineandinitial
Legio patria nostra
So..... the Ukranians are burying people in "mass graves" without any video or photos of the carnage before, during or after the burials.......
Then some satellite image show "evidence of mass graves" and the MSM readers are outraged. Well, didn't the Ukranians bury them??? If so, why do you need a satellite and why is it "evidence"???? This doesn't seem fishy to you?
I'm done talking about it. Best wishes.
floridays
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What's a "conservative Christian Value.?I just posted what Readovka posted. And they love a good daddy dictator who "supports Christian conservative values" just as much as you and @BigGuy2732 do.
You got the stones.
I expect you will respond, you are a responsive anti-Christian, or anti-christ.
floridays
Well-Known Member
What do you understand of mass graves from previous wars?
I don't follow all the posts here.
Is it your contention that mass graves do not exist?
Lineandinitial
Legio patria nostra
The mass graves that I’ve seen are big holes where people, animals, objects were simply thrown into and covered over.
More than 1 in a hole would be considered “mass”.
People typically outraged by this would film their findings and scream to the world…not bury them without firm evidence.
A normal person would wonder where the footage is and why did a satellite find “possible” mass grave in a church lot.
A person previously assigned to UNTSO (now DPO) that’s seem lots of mass graves would definitely know something isn’t close to accurate.
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floridays
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I'm happy you are so cavalier with human life.
Per your definition, is one body in a hole a grave, and more than one per hole is "mass.?
I don't remember, or frankly have read much you post.
My question,
Are civillians being killed indiscrimately and if, who buries and how?
