UPS - Self Insured

Bagels

Family Leave Fridays!!!
Normally when people don't have insurance & have an expensive medical bills there are collections, liens & even bankruptcy to deal with but since you claimed he wouldn't pay a "single penny" that would lead us to believe that he is low-income. If that's the case, well, I have good news for your uncle, but it's bad news for hard working tax payers. Now, thanks to Obamacare, the free services he enjoyed as a "free-rider" before, are still free. Only now he can enjoy them with a sense of entitlement. He may not like Obamacare now but give it time. Once he figures out that he's getting something for free at someone else's expense, he'll be voting Democrat for life.

You can't collect money from somebody who doesn't have it. (And for the record, PolitiFact's Lie of the Year 2009 was the ObamaCare Death Panels - which never existed - and 2010 Lie of the Year was that ObamaCare is an attempt for the government to control your health insurance.... both brought to you by FOX News. PolitiFact is a conservative-leaning organization that FOX News itself frequently turns to to point out lies/bias elsewhere in the media).

And you're one of those people who happily votes for union-busters, believing that if the union didn't exist, you'd be earning similar compensation if not more.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
You can't collect money from somebody who doesn't have it. (And for the record, PolitiFact's Lie of the Year 2009 was the ObamaCare Death Panels - which never existed - and 2010 Lie of the Year was that ObamaCare is an attempt for the government to control your health insurance.... both brought to you by FOX News. PolitiFact is a conservative-leaning organization that FOX News itself frequently turns to to point out lies/bias elsewhere in the media).

And you're one of those people who happily votes for union-busters, believing that if the union didn't exist, you'd be earning similar compensation if not more.

the Wall Street Journal said PolitiFact was "less seeker of truth than servant of power", after it ranked as "Lie of the Year" Sarah Palin's claim that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act would lead to "death panels
 

Atomic_Smurf

Well-Known Member
You can't collect money from somebody who doesn't have it. (And for the record, PolitiFact's Lie of the Year 2009 was the ObamaCare Death Panels - which never existed - and 2010 Lie of the Year was that ObamaCare is an attempt for the government to control your health insurance.... both brought to you by FOX News. PolitiFact is a conservative-leaning organization that FOX News itself frequently turns to to point out lies/bias elsewhere in the media).

And you're one of those people who happily votes for union-busters, believing that if the union didn't exist, you'd be earning similar compensation if not more.

We were talking about your uncle going from free-rider status to entitlement status under Obamacare. What's with your Jared Laughner type it infatuation with FOX News?
 

Bagels

Family Leave Fridays!!!
the Wall Street Journal said PolitiFact was "less seeker of truth than servant of power", after it ranked as "Lie of the Year" Sarah Palin's claim that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act would lead to "death panels

False. A columnist within the WSJ pieced an editorial stating that. Other columnists have stated their desire, for example, for former President Bush to be persecuted for war crimes. Their views don't reflect that of the paper they appear in. There's zero evidence to support that assertion... because it doesn't exist. The right embraced PoliticFact for years, pointing out its founders were leaning toward the right, but when PoliticFact called out their B.S. they suddenly attacked it as not credible because it's the product of a left-leaning newspaper. Remember all that talk the right did about the false, bias polling the liberal media did? You know, the same polling that's been dead accurate for many years, sans a couple years when it was right leaning? Of course, this is from a party that nominated somebody who calls evolution fictitious to run the science committee within the House..
 

Atomic_Smurf

Well-Known Member
Independent Payment Advisory Board = death panel. This is the medical rationing board that Palin was referring too but it appears you would rather cling to your ignorance of the subject than educate yourself by reading about it in the ACA.
 

Bagels

Family Leave Fridays!!!
Independent Payment Advisory Board = death panel. This is the medical rationing board that Palin was referring too but it appears you would rather cling to your ignorance of the subject than educate yourself by reading about it in the ACA.

It's been debunked as a death panel. But if you keep saying it, the magic fairy will make it true, right :)?
 

Bagels

Family Leave Fridays!!!
I wanted to clarify my previous posting, but am no longer able to edit it. Betsy McCaughey is the creator of the death panel myth. Palin quickly got onboard, and FOX News turned it mainstream. Death panels never existed but the uproar McCaughney manufactured caused the verbiage of the bill to be changed. In the above interview with Jon Stewart, McCaughey humiliates herself as she is unable to locate, then later justify, the verbiage that she persisted equated into death panels. The fallout from the interview led to her resigning from her position on a medical supplies board. Today, she's a frequent critic of ObamaCare on FOX News... which still maintains the illusion of death panels.
 

Atomic_Smurf

Well-Known Member
Palin quickly got onboard, and FOX News turned it mainstream. Death panels never existed but the uproar McCaughney manufactured caused the verbiage of the bill to be changed.[/QUOTE]

Nothing that could be described as a death panel ever existed, and they decided to change the words in the bill to prove it... That says it all right there.
 

Atomic_Smurf

Well-Known Member
He's already enjoyed $1M at the expense of the taxpayers....[/QUOTE]

No longer is your uncle stealing from taxpayers. Thanks to Obamacare he now he is entitled to it, Guilt free.
 

Atomic_Smurf

Well-Known Member
it's always sad to see people who get their news from Jon Stewart on Comedy Central. It's on between Crank Yankers and South Park. And we wonder how Americans could be ignorant enough to elect Obama...twice.
 

Bagels

Family Leave Fridays!!!
it's always sad to see people who get their news from Jon Stewart on Comedy Central. It's on between Crank Yankers and South Park. And we wonder how Americans could be ignorant enough to elect Obama...twice.

Once again, you're demonstrating your ignorance. The interview is significant -- Dr. McCaughney manufactured the "death panel" myth, but was unable to justify her conclusion from the verbiage of the bill. As a direct result of the fallout from the interview, she had to relinquish her seat on a board. Nonetheless, she/FOX News had created such a ruckus that the verbiage was changed to avoid any confusion (that no rational person would have anyway). Yet earlier you persist these death panels exist -- they never did, nor do they now.

It continually surprises me how many people believe UPS is a loving, heartful company that - even in absence of a CBA - would take great care of its employees ... even though UPS contributes millions every year toward anti-union lobbyist groups. Keep voting for union-busting politicians - it's your right.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
it's always sad to see people who get their news from Jon Stewart on Comedy Central. It's on between Crank Yankers and South Park. And we wonder how Americans could be ignorant enough to elect Obama...twice.


Come on? He's for hope and change, and free cell phones!
 
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