Upscorpis,Upscorpis, what injustice are you referring too? I am only stating my opinion and experience, for your information I love UPS and I love what I do. I take advantage of every opportunity I get to make my work environment and UPS a better place. As I stated before I think as soon as the economy improves, we will see a big exodus from the hourly technicians. Using the word think suggests my opinion only, not my actions. The IT economy stinks right now, but when it gets hot again, and it will, there will be many opportunities for people with talent. Maybe when that time comes I might just consider other options, but I doubt it, I love my situation. Could it be possible that the dead wood I refer to has put a strain on your eyes or comprehension capabilities? Sometimes the truth does funny things to people. You remind me of some of my management team, they too misinterprets of what is being said to what they would like to hear. I never said I was a YES man.