We Need to be asking question concerning to the DOT

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by BEE51, Jan 12, 2016.

  1. BEE51

    BEE51 New Member

    We as a group need to be E-mailing the department of Transportation along with are local politicians about how can Amazon start a delivery service without being held accountable for the same regulations that we are. First, why will the Amazon drivers be able to deliver packages without a semi annual DOT physical? Second will these vehicles that are being driven going to have a DOT sticker along with permits allowing that vehicle the rite to carry Alcohal and Hazardous materials, are these delivery people going to be trained in Haz Mat certification. Third, how are you going to make sure that none these delivery people do not work one minute over the 60 hour rule. These are concerns that need to be brought up. Our company spends millions of dollars a year on maintaining our qualifications. If Amazon is going to be a delivery service then they need to made to have the same rules as us. Start calling and E-mailing are politicians as well as our union leaders.
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  2. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    why would amazon be exempt from any business regulations?
  3. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    You can bet the DOT will be watching Amazon more so than they watch us.
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  4. scooby0048

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    Where are you getting your information. I would have to think that Amazon will be under the microscope for quite a while.
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    How would Amazon delivering their own products be any different from a brick and mortar doing the same?
  6. scooby0048

    scooby0048 This page left intentionally blank

    You raise a good point but I would have to think that the volume and interstate commerce might have something to do with it. Good question though, I'd be interested to see how they word it so they can stay out of DOT regulations.
  7. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    Maybe he's referring to the new Uber type delivery service they're starting where anyone can sign up and deliver amazon packages.
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  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The feeders going between distribution centers would most certainly need to comply.
  9. opey

    opey Member

    dot regulation will depend on what type of vehicles they use, and where... if they use small trucks like a typical cargo van or transit connect, theres no dot regulation (except sometimes in big cities). if they are using bigger trucks then they would be regulated just like any other
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  10. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    They been on the news shouting from the rooftops about their new services. You better bet your ass DOT will be on it.
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  11. MyTripisCut

    MyTripisCut Director of Shenanigans

    I will never bet my ass when you are involved
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  12. SmithBarney

    SmithBarney Well-Known Member

    FYI lots of FEDEX Couriers aren't required to carry DOT cards, less than 10k lbs, no Hazmat requiring signage... etc etc still have to abide by DOT HOS regs though.
  13. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Let organize Amazon! Future Teamsters, unlike those pansy arse Fed Ex wimps!
  14. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    Is the guy delivering my Pizza under the same DOT rules?
  15. Knothead

    Knothead WTF?

    If he's doing it in a package car, yes.
  16. Austin.Was.My.Hero

    Austin.Was.My.Hero quod erat demonstrandum

    Does Amazon sell Hazmat materials?
  17. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Yes. Items such as nail polish and other beauty products are considered a hazmat over a certain quantity.
  18. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    Most of that is shipped in small enough quantities to be ORM's. Not a big issue as long as it doesn't go air.
  19. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    They are not.

    But if Amazon uses "contractors" like Uber drivers who may use their personal vehicles and if these vehicles are under 10,001 pounds and do not deliver hazmat, then they are exempt from all DOT rules, including medical and HOS rules.

    Any vehicle under this weight is not a CMV and is not subject to DOT regulations.

    They are still subject to any local regulations, if there are any, covering them.
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  20. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Amazon can even use employees, not contractors, and they are not subject to DOT rules as long as their vehicles are under 10,001 lbs.