We..the UPS Teamsters Need to Organize FedEx ......

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by InsideUPS, Mar 20, 2013.

  1. InsideUPS

    InsideUPS Active Member

    As the title states "We the UPS Teamsters Need to Organize FedEx" ..

    Individuals on the FedEx forum of BrownCafe are pleading for help in organizing as outlined below. I believe that each and every Teamster Local should be VERY active in attempting to reach out to FedEx hourly employees. I often wonder how many Locals actually make a continued effort to organize FedEx. Complacency, laziness, and apathy are counterproductive to strong representation.

    Read more: http://www.browncafe.com/forum/f50/mr-hoffa-get-off-your-ass-right-now-348860/#ixzz2O68Z7jaf

  2. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    I have been saying this for years, I encourage all of my fellow UPS employees to talk to the Fedex employees that we come in contact with. I've been hearing the talk from the union about organizing them for 30 years, the Fedex people I talk to have never seen any attempt at organizing them. I know my Local has had workshops and has tried, but I haven't seen any successes. Fedex uses intimidation on their employees and is very good at it. Ultimately, it will be up to enough Fedexers getting tired of it to get together and do something about it.
  3. curiousbrain

    curiousbrain Well-Known Member

    The building where I am employed is ... maybe, a quarter of a mile from another labor intensive work site, that is represented by the same local, and obviously are Teamsters, as well.

    Two years ago (or so), they went on strike because the company they work for locked them out, and was basically trying to break the union. They failed, but that's not really the relevant part.

    The relevant part, is that not a single UPS Teamster employee - not even the guys with 20 years who beat the drum endlessly about ... everything - stood there for a second with them.

    When the Teamsters solve that problem, I'll take seriously any attempt to unionize FedEx.
  4. steelbed1

    steelbed1 New Member

    Spoken to share holders of ups and they would love this. It would devastated FedEx
  5. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    What are u saying? I seriously don't understand this post. Do u want us to strike every time another teamster company strikes.
  6. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Now THIS is getting interesting...
  7. curiousbrain

    curiousbrain Well-Known Member

    No, not at all. I was observing (in a poor way, perhaps) that unionizing FedEx is a grand goal; however, when individual Teamsters can't (or won't, etc) even stand next to other Teamsters (not strike their own company, but just stand there in a show of solidarity, at the very least) who are striking, that that is a fundamental obstacle to unionizing a huge company like FedEx.

    I understand there are subtleties and obstacles, obviously. Just thinking out loud.
  8. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    He's saying that while these guys were on strike, he never saw any of us supporting them on their picket line.
    If I am correct in my interpretation, I would have to agree.
    I would have been proud to go by on my way in or home and walk the picket line with them, IN MY UNIFORM to show support.
  9. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I don't understand the fear really for FedEx employees? I mean if we are to believe express drivers they are in a dead end job now anyway and ground drivers..... There's lots of jobs out there making what they make. I see the reward to be far more than the risk.
  10. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    You get off before dark though. Lol

    It would of never even crossed my mind. Maybe we should blame the teamsters in general. I had no idea that would be expected of fellow teamsters. I don't expect anyone to be out there on the line with us in August if it does happen.

    I would honk and give them a thumbs up. Would never consider crossing the line to deliver. I just didn't know we were expected to support other teamster by picketing with them.
  11. oldupsman

    oldupsman Well-Known Member

    We had enough trouble trying to man the pickett lines in the strike of 97 much less show up at somebody else's
    workplace. Oh sure it was great fun the first week but going into week 2 all of the sudden guys had other stuff to do.
    Like work at another job they picked up while we were on strike. Because they were broke. Wasn't so much fun anymore.
  12. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    We tried organizing FedEx locally. Got enough cards signed, but it fell apart with the vote. Maybe people were afraid. But we tried.
    As for strike support, I used to drive by Verizon pocket lines and drop of cases of water to them. 5 cases of water for 20 bucks. Chump change. They were grateful. I just said, "Just remember is when we are out on the line!"
  13. thedownhillEXPRESS

    thedownhillEXPRESS Well-Known Member

    Express workers will more then willingly admit that Fedex has outsourced their jobs to the sham Ground contractor model.
    It's destroyed our careers and yes it will be you next.
    You would think that this would be something that even the Teamsters and UPS would agree on.
    Get this snowball rolling!
  14. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    I will suggest it again here. Anyone think UPS would pony up $60,000,000 to move this along? Mr. Downhill is right. It's probably in your best interest.
  15. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    What you need is a couple Fedex drivers with some cojones at each facility. Without that to start with, it aint gonna happen.
    And I don't think you'll find that. Ol' Fred got them beaten down so bad, most are like those dogs you see with their tail between their legs.
  16. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

    The problem is FedEx express can't unionize because they are a airliner and employees can't unions under the railroad act. The ground, home and fright can because they don't use plains.
  17. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    I agree wholeheartedly. If the couriers can at least gain traction and show some solid measure of support - especially in the face of FedEx continuing their onslaught against the FedEx courier - then we should be supporting them. Organizing under the RLA will be immensely difficult, but if the couriers can begin grassroots level organizing and gain some momentum while using social media and/or a central and independent website (as R1a has suggested in other posts) then maybe they can get something going.

    It would be a privilege to lend them a hand if they can take that first step.
  18. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    They absolutely can unionize - however, under the RLA, they would have to hold a single massive nationwide vote rather than unionize station-by-station as they would under the NLRA. Facility-by-facility is already a tough road to go but much more feasible - in a nationwide election, FedEx has many more dirty tricks to pull out of the bag. Mass hiring to dilute the voting pool, etc.

    FedEx Ground is a different story. The sorting facilities fall under NLRA guidelines but their drivers are 1099 Independent Contractors - who are the only rank-and-file hourly employees in the FedEx system that cannot unionize.. for now.
  19. Operational needs

    Operational needs Non desistas. Non exieras.

    Put yourself in my shoes. Twenty-five+ years at FedEx, single mom, one paycheck away from being homeless. I have worked here most of my adult life. Getting fired is not an option for me, dead end job or not. The jobs making what we make want skills or more education, or you have to work there for years to get the same pay. I realize that isn't the situation everyone is in, but that is MY situation, and that is why I stay.
  20. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    No...he is saying that we should show some solidarity by standing on the picket line with them on our own time.