Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
We all have those pickups. How slow can you go...
UPS would have half the people but the pay would be double or triple, and each would do the work of 3. Productivity is why we can earn and be competitive.
whats the pros and cons of being in the union
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UPS would have half the people but the pay would be double or triple, and each would do the work of 3. Productivity is why we can earn and be competitive.
Staydryitsraining
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Pro is your not a tick.
watdaflock?
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Actually, newer employees would make more. As for benefits, I agree with you.
Sarcasm has a tendency to go over peoples head.
summersaltstains
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Yeah some of these anti union grumps seem to think that FedEx and Amazon must only accept excellence since they aren't organized.
IESucks
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No but they aren't worked to death
summersaltstains
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I see them running and pulling into every little driveway because they are often paid by the package, not the hour. I may have to work more hours but at least I can work them at a safe pace. I may have had 300 stops to the FedEx guys 100 last peak but he was the one running and I was the one taking my break at 10pm with 30 stops left, making double or triple what he did that day.
browndevil
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THIS!!!
You’re actually delusional. How about more work for less pay?
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Less pay? You sound like our union negotiators.
The reason we can compete and afford high wages is because of our productivity.
Ya but there would be no guarantee of those wages.
They could just decide to pay one driver 45 an hour and a different one with similar seniority 25
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
I think we are on the same side. These places need an union.
They are the reason you have insurance and a raise every year
On principle alone you should be a member
Pros- You get a nifty booklet in the mail that outlines Teamster corruption and tries to scare you into voting for liberals by using terms like "war on workers."
Cons- You eventually realize the company does whatever it wants and the union only cares about getting your dues. You also realize that you pay for union brass to get raises and take trips all over the country while you are forced to work overtime in semi-barbaric conditions, have your time allowance cut on a regular basis, get harassed and bullied, and an ever increasing workload. You will soon realize that the union forced a garbage contract upon you, as the company starts to transition to a workforce of essentially temp workers that get no real benefits, lower pay, and a 7 day work schedule. That's just the start of it.
Cons- You eventually realize the company does whatever it wants and the union only cares about getting your dues. You also realize that you pay for union brass to get raises and take trips all over the country while you are forced to work overtime in semi-barbaric conditions, have your time allowance cut on a regular basis, get harassed and bullied, and an ever increasing workload. You will soon realize that the union forced a garbage contract upon you, as the company starts to transition to a workforce of essentially temp workers that get no real benefits, lower pay, and a 7 day work schedule. That's just the start of it.
Rack em
Made the Podium
Hard to argue with you, but there are plenty more pros lol. Your con list is pretty damn accurate though.
browndevil
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Curious to know what State you work in?
rown_oser
Same As It Ever Was
National Labor Relations Act
Congress enacted the National Labor Relations Act ("NLRA") in 1935 to protect the rights of employees and employers, to encourage collective bargaining, and to curtail certain private sector labor and management practices, which can harm the general welfare of workers, businesses and the U.S. economy.
source [] https://www.nlrb.gov/how-we-work/national-labor-relations-act
"Employees shall have the right to self-organization, to form, join, or assist labor organizations, to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, and to engage in other concerted activities for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection..."
Because capitalism is greedy, enough employees were sick of being abused and/or experiencing death in the workplace. Enough said "enough is enough with these unfair work-practices so let's do something about it" and the aforementioned was passed. Capitalistic businesses are traditionally cha$ing dollar $ign$ and not looking out for their fellow-human-subordinate—company-value-adding's welfare.
Congress enacted the National Labor Relations Act ("NLRA") in 1935 to protect the rights of employees and employers, to encourage collective bargaining, and to curtail certain private sector labor and management practices, which can harm the general welfare of workers, businesses and the U.S. economy.
source [] https://www.nlrb.gov/how-we-work/national-labor-relations-act
"Employees shall have the right to self-organization, to form, join, or assist labor organizations, to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, and to engage in other concerted activities for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection..."
-"National Labor Relations Act of 1935"
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Driver7906
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The only real con I can think of with the Union is that they protect the lazy, lousy workers. The guys who always look to do the bare minimum, are a poor representation of the company (and the Union as well), have no appreciation for their job and make their co-workers have to work harder because of their laziness. There are a number of employees in my building who don't belong there and I wish the company could find a way to fire them. They're bad for the Union and UPS.
