I wish I made $20hr. I imagine the money you spend is provided by FedEx, yes? I'm looking at the heavy rts that were cited getting $16hr with no benefits. If all you can pay is that, fine. If you are doing really well for yourself while your workers are barely making it, not good. And let's remember they are in that position because FedEx has finagled things to make themselves as profitable as possible, and are paying you well to take care of all of this for them. It's what they want, it's what the shippers want. This all works because people are willing to do the work for that pay. Will be interesting to see how everything turns out if the economy ever improves.
What's Your DEX01 Count Going To Be Today?
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I wish I made $20hr. I imagine the money you spend is provided by FedEx, yes? I'm looking at the heavy rts that were cited getting $16hr with no benefits. If all you can pay is that, fine. If you are doing really well for yourself while your workers are barely making it, not good. And let's remember they are in that position because FedEx has finagled things to make themselves as profitable as possible, and are paying you well to take care of all of this for them. It's what they want, it's what the shippers want. This all works because people are willing to do the work for that pay. Will be interesting to see how everything turns out if the economy ever improves.
STFXG
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It worked out fine when the economy was great. As far as employees should be making out better... Why? If there was a higher demand for unskilled labor then we would be forced to offer better to keep employees. But high school grads are in abundance.
Should we not be "doing really well" when we are the ones putting everything on the line? A lot of us take out 2nd mortgages to fund expansions or to buy in on this "scam". Employees who sign up for a job and can walk away at any time sure talk a lot about how employers should be handling their risk...
Should we not be "doing really well" when we are the ones putting everything on the line? A lot of us take out 2nd mortgages to fund expansions or to buy in on this "scam". Employees who sign up for a job and can walk away at any time sure talk a lot about how employers should be handling their risk...
I love it when Democrats take up Republican arguments. I'm not advocating that you shouldn't get compensated well, only that the pursuit of profit by this company is turning thousands into wage slaves with little hope to improve themselves and no, they aren't in a position to walk away in this economy. If FedEx is running a 20% operating margin at Ground maybe they should give some of that back to the drivers but we know the answer to that.
FedEx controls everything you do so yes they could tell you to pay the drivers more. Pretty tough handling tons of freight for 60 hrs a week and have the energy to go to school too, let alone the time or money to pay for it.
Nah, you are just the CEO's enabler...
MrFedEx
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Try 475 times more.
MrFedEx
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The "beauty" of the Ground scam is that contractors and FedEx make out like bandits, and the drivers get the shaft. While you are correct that nobody is stopping them technically, when you're paying someone peanuts and having them work for 60 hrs per week, they aren't likely to have extra time or resources to better themselves.
They probably have to get a second job so they can make ends meet of what you misers pay.
welcome to capitalism in America. I'm not here to make it all nice for everybody. If I could afford $20/hr the same people here would be saying exactly the same things. If people feel trapped working for me, would they feel less trapped working for Walmart? Too much wealth at the top? Absolutely. And there is absolutely nothing you and I can do about it.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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None of the Ground drivers that I see on a daily basis wear an ankle bracelet or are in any way tethered---in other words, they are not indentured servants and are free to leave at any time. Perhaps there are other restrictions which limit their options but I don't see that as being a concern for bbsam, STXFG or any of the other contractors.
Supply and demand.
If I can take advantage of you to live well myself, and get away with it, then great for me and too bad for you. If you were sharper you'd be doing the same, and since you aren't sharper you deserve to be taken advantage of by sharp guys like me. And this is exactly what's wrong with the world. I don't believe in equal outcomes for everyone, some are going to do better than others. But this constant push to take away from others to live ever better with more and more in the bank is wholeheartedly embraced by our corporate leadership. The reason we have isms like communism and socialism is that those who climb to the top are never satisfied. People react to this eventually. What we are really seeing in this country is the decline of America from the days when our economy was growing and there was plenty. Globalization has pretty much insured that the opportunities that provided for a large middle class are mostly gone and now companies are positioning themselves to take as much of the leftover wealth for themselves. There's not much use in complaining because we don't have the means to stop it. Get used to being used. It's no longer just how some companies do business, it's mainstream. Should make for great theater when it starts affecting companies like UPS.
SmithBarney
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Nobody likes ours, he comes in blocks our only bay door, sometimes leaves the truck running, always on his cell phone blabbering away in a foreign language(nothing wrong with language by the way) works slow as heck, and leaves 30 minutes later, most of the time leaving the bay door open(we have an unsecure location)
Goldilocks
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I love bargains and sometimes shop at a resale store. I always see our Fedex Ground Driver shopping there too.
That's something nearly universal. People like bargains. Maybe shippers see Ground as a bargain.
Goldilocks
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Go to Fedex on FB and see how many customers REALLY appreciated our service...Good Lord, what a mess. But I do like our Ground Guy. He's a hard worker....and LOVES a bargain....lol
I don't like Walmart, but I'll buy cheap crap there because there are alot of things that I'm only going to use sparingly. A $5 hammer will last me a lifetime. I don't need the latest, greatest, and most advanced nail pounder thingy.
Goldilocks
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I hear ya, me too....Shopped around for tires for my car, now thats expensive....Our mechanic told me to buy michelin, smoother ride, softer tire so I did, 800 bucks later, yikes...no bargain at Discount Tires....He told me to never shop at Walmart for tires, that they are idiots....lol
MrFedEx
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Maybe, but FedEx Ground is a subsidized workforce...just like WalMart. Don't you see anything wrong with a company that foists it's costs for benefits off onto the general public? If one of bbsam's employees or their kids get sick, where do they go for health care? The ER. If they don't make enough money to make ends meet, they apply for some form of Public Assistance. Who pays for that?
I love how you tacitly support Ground while they simultaneously undermine your career and your company because Fred S gets cheap, taxpayer-subsidized labor to work his scam. You don't care because you will be retired soon and it won't be your problem. If you were 25, you'd probably feel quite differently.
Fedex makes plenty...share a littlebit with the grunts!!!!!!!!!!!The fat cats on top aint starving......too many fat chiefs and too many starving Indians
