quad decade guy

Well-Known Member
TLDR the whole thing. Despite the fact that many of your concerns are legitimate, this is the wrong approach if you want to make a long career at UPS. Not sure if you do or not. Getting upset about every little thing only adds stress to you. Believe me they aren’t worried about it. Get used to the fact that problems rarely get fixed at this company. They only care about the numbers and getting through that particular day. I see Drivers that get mad about their routes and stop counts every single day to the point it looks like they will have a stroke. With this company you gotta let everything roll off your back and stop caring. Refuse to do anything unsafe. Work at a slower pace if it’s required to do it safely. The time to bring up your documented complaints is when management tries to harass you about production.
Generally agree.

However, I think your take is far too simplistic. Harassment is real. We all have families to feed.

I do applaud the OP for caring and trying.

I hear Amazon deploys the same tactics.......then what?

BTW, I see a few folks on BC say there are no production standards and cannot be enforced......not in my 40 year career as an hourly. They are real and are met. No? Better believe it. This company counts on them. They are enforced. They are not going to qualify(pkg) a slug. No? Why do you think cameras are everywhere? Miss a pickup......have a feeder load not make service....

Oh......production standards are quite real and enforced. I was called(on road) to ask why I was on breakdown.......believe it.
 

Doing time

Well-Known Member
Generally agree.

However, I think your take is far too simplistic. Harassment is real. We all have families to feed.

I do applaud the OP for caring and trying.

I hear Amazon deploys the same tactics.......then what?

BTW, I see a few folks on BC say there are no production standards and cannot be enforced......not in my 40 year career as an hourly. They are real and are met. No? Better believe it. This company counts on them. They are enforced. They are not going to qualify(pkg) a slug. No? Why do you think cameras are everywhere? Miss a pickup......have a feeder load not make service....

Oh......production standards are quite real and enforced. I was called(on road) to ask why I was on breakdown.......believe it.
I’m not advising to be a slug. They guy sounds like a productive worker. I’m all for him bringing up his concerns to management. My advice is simply to work at the fastest speed you can safely. For him that may mean slowing down with his current conditions. I’m trying to prepare him for the fact that it’s not likely management will address the types of concerns that he had highlighted here. At least in my 27 years with the company that has been my experience. As far as harassment and production, if you engage with them or acknowledge it, then they have already won. Don’t be a runner and don’t be a slug and you have no worries. Punch in, so your job, punch out. Much easier to make a long career when you engage the minimum amount possible with management.
 

retiredTxfeeder

cap'n crunch
No matter how good you are, or how good you think you are, or how good management tells you that you are, you're just a warm body and another employee number, and can be replaced easily. These concerns you bring up are all valid. Equipment in your photos don't change a lot. I saw the same issues when I was an unloader when I started in 1976. Kudos to you for trying to change things around a place that resists changes that don't benefit the company.
 

burrheadd

KING Of GIFS
Oh?

Ok.

I saw the honest truth.

Explain please: Why folks can't take 2 minutes to see what's going on? Should he just put up a sexual innuendo clip or bombs exploding? Insane......really? He lives it everyday.

That's why we take extended pkg routes......one stop 12 hour feeder runs....to get away from this stupidity when we are able. I don't do CPU just to get away from the office dispatch morons and abusive ORS's beat down by abusive MGR'S.

MY GOD....The young man even provided photo proof.

Why are we here on BC? Just to bully and be abusive? Every thread is hijacked by the same handful of folks.....what is the OP supposed to do? Hell, we can't even have a tribute thread without it being hijacked by BS.
40 years and you’re still scared to death
What a way to live your life
 

UnionStrong

Doesn’t play well with others…
You mean a dolly?
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Brownwind

Well-Known Member
I've been a package handler for UPS since November of last year and recently starting in May, I've noticed how much harder the work has gotten due to a couple reasons. Lack of functional equipment, lack of workers, and poor management. Let me first state that I am no lazy worker, I have been complemented by supervisors multiple times for being able to do almost impossible task, one of those task being able to load over 1,000 packages with no misloads in the course of a couple hours. Anyways for my first point in regards to the lack of functional equipment, our rollers and the stands for those rollers have been beaten so bad that they are almost unusable. Half of the stands have snapped in half and the rolls to the rollers constantly fall out and waste huge amounts of time. Not only are the rollers and stands a nuisance but so are our scanners as well. Every morning when I try to set one up, it will refuse to turn on. After awhile when I finally get the scanners set up for my trucks, they will turn off and disconnect themselves every chance they get, making it a harder task to scan surepost, especially in a rush. We have been promised new scanners for months now, but have received nothing. Now to my second point in regards to the lack of workers. For some reason UPS has decided to not have any sort of interview in the hiring process for the position, so we tend to hire people who are "unfit" for the job and because of that, multiple people have just walked out on us, leaving the rest to pick up the slack. The lack of workers has been such a huge problem that almost everyone who still works here has to load 4 to 5 trucks everyday. One of the employees is being threatend with suspension due to misloads but has to load almost 1,000 packages everyday and it's hard to keep up with. My last point is in regards to poor management. For example, I was unloading trailer one time with another guy and we were 30 minutes ahead of schedule, however management came down and told me to dump bags until told otherwise. So we ended up being late because the guy in the trailer couldn't keep up the PPH by himself. Another example of poor management actually happeneded this morning. At the end of the day we were waiting on the air truck to arrive and for some reason management sent home everyone except for 5 guys. 1 guy was unloading, 2 guys were scanning, and 3 guys were left to load over 30 trucks. No one was there to sort the packages and it was a nightmare.

We have recently started wearing T-shirts and posted signs on our vehicles stating our complaints. Management has known of these complaints for awhile and has done nothing. I am only 18 years old and was wondering who do I complain to and how? and will my complaints actually cause any change?

I have attached photos of everything that I have stated above and more. I hope I can get some feedback from this post.

I have more photos but I am limited on how many files I can attach, I will see if I can reply to this with the other photos. Please excuse me, I am still new to the site.

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Wow you definitely have a few things to consider. We’re going try to help out. First thing is to remember what you signed up for. So the signs and t’s are a bit much and won’t change anything.(we’re under a master contract agreement with our pay) your going to stand out as target.

When I help out on preload I fix the rollers myself. Take the best roller off of the unused ones and snap them in your self. One side of the roller is spring loaded and can be pushed in with a pen to remove them.

The load stands can be ordered via oms supp in the office. She will have the equipment list. In the meantime see if a mechanic can weld them up. If not use a box of paper with an empty box as a stand( it works well)

The over size is going to be a challenge. Don’t block the route your help is going to use to get to you. Stack neatly it’ll make it easier later.

Be safe and stay calm. You got this
 
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