Who said it best, the GOP or the KKK?

[UnionStrong]

being inclusive to all is a bad thing? you are starting to sound like some of the folks in the clip i posted

He hates them

 

[728ups]

I didn't say it was a bad thing.
I didn't say we shouldn't take them.

I actually didn't say a word about whether it was good or bad.
I said it was intentional to get Democratic votes.
And it was.

whats wrong with being inclusive? you seem against it

 

[wilberforce15]

whats wrong with being inclusive? you seem against it

And yet the discussion over the Great Replacement is whether it's a thing. Whether it happened intentionally.

Not whether it's good or bad. You are changing the subject. It doesn't matter whether I think it's good or bad.

It was intentional. And that makes the "conspiracy theory" true.

 

[728ups]

And yet the discussion over the Great Replacement is whether it's a thing. Whether it happened intentionally.

Not whether it's good or bad. You are changing the subject. It doesn't matter whether I think it's good or bad.

It was intentional. And that makes the "conspiracy theory" true.

you are confusing being more inclusive with replacement.

 

[wilberforce15]

you are confusing being more inclusive with replacement.

They are only inclusive of democratic voting blocs.
Cubans are less welcome than Mexicans. Why? They lean more Republican than Mexicans.
They bring in the voters they want. This is not hard. It's super easy. And it is obvious fact.

 

[wilberforce15]

Tell me all about the hordes of Republicans you want to bring in to America.

 

[wilberforce15]

If all you can do is call me an Old fart it just shows how little you bring to the table.

I've been running circles around you, and that was icing for the cake.

As you can tell, I enjoy mixed metaphors also.

Another advantage is that I know what a mixed metaphor is.

 

[MORS HOSTIBUS]

Depending on what state or job you were in, your government mislead you too get a useless jab, lock you down, loose your business, loose your job. Even if you were healthcare, law enforcement, military hero. Enough said. Take your government bribes and shove it communist.

 

[728ups]

I've been running circles around you, and that was icing for the cake.

As you can tell, I enjoy mixed metaphors also.

Another advantage is that I know what a mixed metaphor is.

you have most certainly been running in circles.

 

[vantexan]

They are only inclusive of democratic voting blocs.
Cubans are less welcome than Mexicans. Why? They lean more Republican than Mexicans.
They bring in the voters they want. This is not hard. It's super easy. And it is obvious fact.

You may be right to an extent but you need to get a better understanding to facts on the ground. It's not 50-80 million Mexicans. It's 50-80 million Hispanics. Mexicans are just a part of it. Central Americans make up at least half of who many refer to as Mexicans. And culturally they are similar yet different.

The other thing is many American Hispanics are now turning to the Republican Party. Democrats are trying to bring in too many too fast and established Hispanic communities on the border, which are mostly Mexican-American, are suffering the most from it. What have been reliable Democratic districts are turning Republican. And a lot of people in those communities have served in the military and are very patriotic.

There's also something else needed to be considered. A lot of major economic powerhouses around the world are in demographic decline. They aren't producing enough kids to replace themselves. We aren't in as bad shape as Europe, China, or Japan but it's coming. A lot of people were let in not as a way to replace whites but as a means to get as many workers as needed. Getting enough new voters to tip the balance of power is a more recent strategy. And there's huge implications to doing this. We're automating at a very fast pace. You have pointed out the AI advantages of the Tesla. That kind of capability is replacing workers at a pretty fast clip. We may soon be swamped with the unemployed at a time when Democrats are letting people in by the millions.

So there's more to it than just an evil plan to overpower whites in this country. And Republicans wanting cheap labor are certainly just as culpable.

 

[Gotta Go]

 

[wilberforce15]

You may be right to an extent but you need to get a better understanding to facts on the ground. It's not 50-80 million Mexicans. It's 50-80 million Hispanics. Mexicans are just a part of it. Central Americans make up at least half of who many refer to as Mexicans. And culturally they are similar yet different.

The other thing is many American Hispanics are now turning to the Republican Party. Democrats are trying to bring in too many too fast and established Hispanic communities on the border, which are mostly Mexican-American, are suffering the most from it. What have been reliable Democratic districts are turning Republican. And a lot of people in those communities have served in the military and are very patriotic.

There's also something else needed to be considered. A lot of major economic powerhouses around the world are in demographic decline. They aren't producing enough kids to replace themselves. We aren't in as bad shape as Europe, China, or Japan but it's coming. A lot of people were let in not as a way to replace whites but as a means to get as many workers as needed. Getting enough new voters to tip the balance of power is a more recent strategy. And there's huge implications to doing this. We're automating at a very fast pace. You have pointed out the AI advantages of the Tesla. That kind of capability is replacing workers at a pretty fast clip. We may soon be swamped with the unemployed at a time when Democrats are letting people in by the millions.

So there's more to it than just an evil plan to overpower whites in this country. And Republicans wanting cheap labor are certainly just as culpable.

It all depends on the time interval, and the immigration act of 1965 is a convenient starting point. There isn't actually more to it than an evil plan to overpower whites. Whites are the enemy. Dems are racial Marxists, and whites are the bourgeois. Democrats are never inconsistent, although many boomer republicans love pretending they are. Boomer republicans never tire of "Dems are the real racists!1!!" type games. It's sad and pathetic.

Dems are very consistent. Whatever they think is bad for the white male hegemony in that particular moment, or in that particular argument, that's their position. They can switch positions hour to hour, or day to day, without being inconsistent to the core goal.

The core goal is dismantling western/white civilization. Whatever furthurs that goal in whatever their current context is, becomes the position.

There are 40M+ Mexicans specifically. It swells to 100M or so if you count all Dem-favored demographics imported since the 1965 immigration overhaul. So, I gave 50-80M for an even middle.

Hungary has shown us the way to solve demographic decline.
You actually support married, domestic people having babies. I know that's a radical idea, but it works.
It isn't shooting for welfare state handouts. It is incentivizing proper family structure and population growth, because otherwise it would be dead.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

you have most certainly been running in circles.

What opinion do you have that isn't shared by every large corporation and government/media entity?

 

[vantexan]

It all depends on the time interval, and the immigration act of 1965 is a convenient starting point. There isn't actually more to it than an evil plan to overpower whites. Whites are the enemy. Dems are racial Marxists, and whites are the bourgeois. Democrats are never inconsistent, although many boomer republicans love pretending they are. Boomer republicans never tire of "Dems are the real racists!1!!" type games. It's sad and pathetic.

Dems are very consistent. Whatever they think is bad for the white male hegemony in that particular moment, or in that particular argument, that's their position. They can switch positions hour to hour, or day to day, without being inconsistent to the core goal.

The core goal is dismantling western/white civilization. Whatever furthurs that goal in whatever their current context is, becomes the position.

There are 40M+ Mexicans specifically. It swells to 100M or so if you count all Dem-favored demographics imported since the 1965 immigration overhaul. So, I gave 50-80M for an even middle.

Hungary has shown us the way to solve demographic decline.
You actually support married, domestic people having babies. I know that's a radical idea, but it works.
It isn't shooting for welfare state handouts. It is incentivizing proper family structure and population growth, because otherwise it would be dead.

Hungary doesn't have the cost of raising kids to the extent that the U.S. does. Nor does it have the economic need we have. There's not enough money to subsidize enough families to make a difference.

You can go back further than 1965. In 1950 El Paso had a population of 150,000 and was 80% white. Of the remaining 20% a substantial part was black so most Hispanics in the area lived across the Rio Grande in Juarez. In 2010 the greater El Paso metro area was about 800,000 and 80% Hispanic. Not counting the million plus across the river.

Mexico estimates about 10% of their population lives in the U.S. I'm separating that number from Mexican-Americans because they are citizens. I've read in numerous places that Central Americans make up about half of all Hispanics in the U.S. Of the remaining 50 or so percent it's not just Mexicans but also Cubans, Dominicans, and various South Americans. Mexicans are much more likely to go home at times or permanently. Central Americans however because of the difficulties to get here are much more likely to stay.

As to your theory of replacing whites, have to disagree. They want enough to tilt the balance of power in their favor. They're white too and the idea of getting rid of whites would include them. The idea that they'll be able to displace whites and rule over a class of people who want power also is unlikely. I've worked with a lot of Hispanics. A lot of them are just as racist as any white and believe they are superior to whites. In areas where they have majority numbers they run the show with few exceptions. And they take great offense to whites treating them badly. This is anecdotal, but comes from decades of working with hundreds of them.

I'm 100% for legitimate immigration. But even the biggest ships can sink and the kind of numbers they're letting it can swamp us. That's what we should be worried about, not global elites killing us all. What gets forgotten in all of this is the rich make their money from economic activity. Been proven time and again capitalism will make them a lot more. They don't want to end that. Certainly there are fanatical ideologues out there. 2021 was the closest they have ever come to getting their way. But average Americans have gotten a good look at that. Unless the Left arms itself to the teeth and fights, any ideas of global domination or even completely turning the country socialist are just that, ideas. Which play into all the conspiracy theories out there by the worried folk. So feel free to go prep for future wars. All the average Hispanic wants is to work, take care of his family, have a decent life which includes worshipping God. If they were all MS-13 you'd have a point. They aren't.

 

[wilberforce15]

Hungary doesn't have the cost of raising kids to the extent that the U.S. does. Nor does it have the economic need we have. There's not enough money to subsidize enough families to make a difference.

You can go back further than 1965. In 1950 El Paso had a population of 150,000 and was 80% white. Of the remaining 20% a substantial part was black so most Hispanics in the area lived across the Rio Grande in Juarez. In 2010 the greater El Paso metro area was about 800,000 and 80% Hispanic. Not counting the million plus across the river.

Mexico estimates about 10% of their population lives in the U.S. I'm separating that number from Mexican-Americans because they are citizens. I've read in numerous places that Central Americans make up about half of all Hispanics in the U.S. Of the remaining 50 or so percent it's not just Mexicans but also Cubans, Dominicans, and various South Americans. Mexicans are much more likely to go home at times or permanently. Central Americans however because of the difficulties to get here are much more likely to stay.

As to your theory of replacing whites, have to disagree. They want enough to tilt the balance of power in their favor. They're white too and the idea of getting rid of whites would include them. The idea that they'll be able to displace whites and rule over a class of people who want power also is unlikely. I've worked with a lot of Hispanics. A lot of them are just as racist as any white and believe they are superior to whites. In areas where they have majority numbers they run the show with few exceptions. And they take great offense to whites treating them badly. This is anecdotal, but comes from decades of working with hundreds of them.

I'm 100% for legitimate immigration. But even the biggest ships can sink and the kind of numbers they're letting it can swamp us. That's what we should be worried about, not global elites killing us all. What gets forgotten in all of this is the rich make their money from economic activity. Been proven time and again capitalism will make them a lot more. They don't want to end that. Certainly there are fanatical ideologues out there. 2021 was the closest they have ever come to getting their way. But average Americans have gotten a good look at that. Unless the Left arms itself to the teeth and fights, any ideas of global domination or even completely turning the country socialist are just that, ideas. Which play into all the conspiracy theories out there by the worried folk. So feel free to go prep for future wars. All the average Hispanic wants is to work, take care of his family, have a decent life which includes worshipping God. If they were all MS-13 you'd have a point. They aren't.

Well, I have informed you.

 

[vantexan]

Well, I have informed you.

True, you've pushed a theory.

 

[El Correcto]

It was done for cheap labor and to undermine the American worker. It was done to chip away at the middle class jobs they couldn’t export over seas.

 

[vantexan]

It wasn’t done to get votes and it wasn’t a democrat ploy. You are just uninformed pushing a racist narrative you heard from a shock jock on Fox News.

There are Democrats who want to permanently tilt the balance in their favor. New voters, new states, stacking SCOTUS. They're on video saying so. But where these conservative guys go wrong is believing the liberals are going to try to kill all the white people. At least the conservative ones. As Bill Maher pointed out conservatives are better armed and know how to use them. As always people get impatient and lose faith in the process. That process as prescribed in the Constitution. Checks and balances. The only way that we'll have civil war is if both sides ignore the Constitution because they want to fight. Which would be purely stupid but never underestimate the stupidity of some.

 

[vantexan]

Saying there are democrats who want that and claiming great replacement is just because of that are two completely different statements.
The racist little Nazi is wrong, sorry.

I don't buy the Great Replacement either. But there are certainly Democrats who want to insure they dominate our government in perpetuity. This leads to all kinds of theories as to how they might accomplish that. Feeds paranoia.

 

[El Correcto]

I don't buy the Great Replacement either. But there are certainly Democrats who want to insure they dominate our government in perpetuity. This leads to all kinds of theories as to how they might accomplish that. Feeds paranoia.

Yeah that’s every politicians and I’m not saying they aren’t motivated by voting demographics that would be stupid as well.
But saying the great replacement theory is all to attack white people and a giant democrat ploy is stupid. It is a bipartisan problem, no one really wants to solve.