Run your route according to where you will take your lunch. If it is at McDonalds or whereever your have a delivery that you may eat at grab your lunch right after you deliver and stop complete.
It is not that difficult to plan where you will be between the 3 and 6 hour. I am sure you drive by several location between that time with a stop next door to it.
If you are driving around town to shop for a place to eat than yes that part is your lunch time....Any business is ran like that, when the lunch bell rings at any place you work you have to be back at your job!
I don't think that is asking for a whole lot to keep your job!
Run your route according to where you will take your lunch. If it is at McDonalds or whereever your have a delivery that you may eat at grab your lunch right after you deliver and stop complete.
It is not that difficult to plan where you will be between the 3 and 6 hour. I am sure you drive by several location between that time with a stop next door to it.
If you are driving around town to shop for a place to eat than yes that part is your lunch time....Any business is ran like that, when the lunch bell rings at any place you work you have to be back at your job!
I don't think that is asking for a whole lot to keep your job!
I run the route the exact way it is put in the board. 100% in trace, 100% of the time. When it's time for lunch I pull to where I am going to go. I don't plan my deliveries the company has already done that for me.
Does the company plan your rest room breaks as well? Yes, you should try to follow trace as much as possible but you should also use common sense and run the area in the most efficient manner possible, which may or may not be trace. Suppose you had a bulk stop that, if you got rid of it, would make the rest of your day much easier, but by doing so you had to break trace. Would you break trace, dump the stop, and go back on trace or would you stay on trace, work around the bulk stop, and struggle through the first part of your day? Trace is a reference and should be followed when possible but things do come up which may make breaking trace a better alternative for you.
reading through the thread I certainly understand many of the posts complaining about how we manage. We micro manage the piss out of our people. And that is something we in management are not immune to. There was a time a division manager had the autonomy to run his division. In todays world I now see district managers micromanaging division managers.
With that said I don't understand the expressions of hate that some have for their management folks. I could not do my job if not for the fact that most of my people understand UPS and the UPS mindset and are generally supportive of what we or I are trying to accomplish. The hate part baffles me. i could not do a job where I have feelings of hate for the job or people.
Nope, nope and nope. I take my bathroom breaks as I deliver. Been on the same route for many years now. I know where all the restrooms are. I also hydrate myself as I deliver the route. I am not allowed off my route by 1 foot for lunch or anything else. Very strict rules about being off area. Even if "off area" is about 40 feet of asphalte. Fine be that way. If you can't trust my judgement about where to go for lunch, how can you possibly trust me to make the right delivery loop. Nope I do it absolutely the way it is in the board, even if it means tripping over a 6-8 piece sleep number bed all day or a 5 piece overweight/oversize pottery barn. It gets delivered when the stop comes up in the board.Does the company plan your rest room breaks as well? Yes, you should try to follow trace as much as possible but you should also use common sense and run the area in the most efficient manner possible, which may or may not be trace. Suppose you had a bulk stop that, if you got rid of it, would make the rest of your day much easier, but by doing so you had to break trace. Would you break trace, dump the stop, and go back on trace or would you stay on trace, work around the bulk stop, and struggle through the first part of your day? Trace is a reference and should be followed when possible but things do come up which may make breaking trace a better alternative for you.
I believe you and I would get along very well. Pay no attention to Upstate. He obviously longs to be a management person and wished he had invented an internet forum. Guys that talk a good game on here, such as Upstate, are usually the same people that run around like scared chickens at work. By the way, who cares if UPS hates you? As long as the blue and white envelope comes in every week, that is all that should matter. I think we should all be more concerned with our benefits deteriorating in years to come than whether or not UPS likes us.Nope, nope and nope. I take my bathroom breaks as I deliver. Been on the same route for many years now. I know where all the restrooms are. I also hydrate myself as I deliver the route. I am not allowed off my route by 1 foot for lunch or anything else. Very strict rules about being off area. Even if "off area" is about 40 feet of asphalte. Fine be that way. If you can't trust my judgement about where to go for lunch, how can you possibly trust me to make the right delivery loop. Nope I do it absolutely the way it is in the board, even if it means tripping over a 6-8 piece sleep number bed all day or a 5 piece overweight/oversize pottery barn. It gets delivered when the stop comes up in the board.
Nope, nope and nope. I take my bathroom breaks as I deliver. Been on the same route for many years now. I know where all the restrooms are. I also hydrate myself as I deliver the route. I am not allowed off my route by 1 foot for lunch or anything else. Very strict rules about being off area. Even if "off area" is about 40 feet of asphalte. Fine be that way. If you can't trust my judgement about where to go for lunch, how can you possibly trust me to make the right delivery loop. Nope I do it absolutely the way it is in the board, even if it means tripping over a 6-8 piece sleep number bed all day or a 5 piece overweight/oversize pottery barn. It gets delivered when the stop comes up in the board.
And I thought: My God … the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure.
You sir, are the Colonel Kurtz of package car drivers. To quote Kurtz:
I have to admire someone that has the complete will to make the company live by the system they have created, 100% of the time. Amazing.
If the army had 10 divisions of men like you our problems in Afghanistan would be over very quickly.
O.K. Sometimes it drops to 95% or 93% in trace, but 100% is the goal every single day. And it is hard work, but by giving a single % point ,Mgt. would take a mile. It is incrdedible hard to do day after day. Try it sometime, especially on days when you know you could get done quicker. Choosing the harder right instead of the easier wrong. When I have a supe with me or getting a harrasement OJS they complain all day long about the trace, but guess what? Not one supe or center manager will sit down and change the delivery loop or the EDD/PAS. They want me to do it (off the clock at home) or just ignore the DOL and "turn the numbers/give 'em numbers" Like I said it's incredibly hard to do day after day and it does wear on you, but it has also saved me more than a few times when I have gotten a wacky split with commercial stops on it ( way off my area)- churches, schools, city offices ect. that were closed when I got there at 6pm. When they tried to terminate me for missed deliveries the B.A. asked for and receivced the daily report with my % in trace and beacuse the split was put in/loaded last and put in the board last it saved me. A few times. Because I was in trace 100% or extermely close to it day after day after day after week ect, it was deemed a dispatch failure and not a driver error. But you can't pick and choose, what saved me was the fact that I do 100 % everyday. After the hearing, we were out in the hallway and the District Labor mgr walked by, then turned around and came back and told me that ( off the record) "that is amazing, perfect trace, amazing" he said as he walked away shaking his head.
I wish that it wasn't that way, but the enviroment calls for it. The constant non stop production harrasment is what has lead to this behavior. It's my only defense. That and also trying to be a "perfect" methods driver. Doing everything by the book. Using their own rules and regs agaisnt them. Just this last fall the center manager came out for a friendly ride ride with me. the next morning he asked to meet me for lunch. At lunch, which was cordial, he asked, "O.K. point well taken, now what can we do to get you in earlier?" We went over a list of suggestions, none of which were implemented and now we are right back at square one. And with the new year came a new round of production harrasement. Ssighhhh ! I don't know if it is an iron will, but it is what shields me in the long run. I really wish it didn't have to be this way, but it is and that's how I deal with it.
(ok, I am done now with the Apocalypse Now references ).
Run your route according to where you will take your lunch. If it is at McDonalds or whereever your have a delivery that you may eat at grab your lunch right after you deliver and stop complete.
It is not that difficult to plan where you will be between the 3 and 6 hour. I am sure you drive by several location between that time with a stop next door to it.
If you are driving around town to shop for a place to eat than yes that part is your lunch time....Any business is ran like that, when the lunch bell rings at any place you work you have to be back at your job!
I don't think that is asking for a whole lot to keep your job!
I'm guessing your kidding. Running off trace is a no-no. But I've finally got a retirement route in the country. Unless I plan on eating a cow or dog, your idea won't work for me.
In my limited experience(20 years, 4 buildings, 2 districts) UPS only hates the employees that hate them.
In my limited experience(20 years, 4 buildings, 2 districts) UPS only hates the employees that hate them.