We cant keep any, new drivers. They stay 6 months,maybe a year.....then get the heck out of Dodge!
With 250 drivers fired, who delivered the packages?
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cachsux
Wah
A new driver will come in and when it really comes to light what the job entails, the management harasses him the first time,etc, he will bail without looking back because he doesn't have the investment in the career like a 20 year veteran has. What one of us would stay a day longer for a company like this if it wasn't for the dollars and benefits and time invested?
Mack Grant
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This is true but there are also many senior drivers who, once they get their own route, do everything they can to milk it for the long haul which is understandable.
I think UPS will be opening up those FT positions (due to the firings) and allow TCDs from neighboring buildings to fill those spots. I mean you have an entire seniority list in that building that will be completely wiped.
Mack Grant
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Hope so as well but after 7+ years I've come to know the machine that is UPS, and you have too.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
You do not sound like you are a current driver. What is your position at UPS that you can make such a statement?
Mack Grant
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Full-Time driver. BTW buddy love the avatar.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
I don't think so.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
My wife asked me to come inside.
Mack Grant
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Well sorry you think that way. I don't know what else to say, what with you questioning my job and all
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Sorry, but this doesn't sound like any driver would say about other drivers.
Except maybe Upstate. He would say something like this about other drivers.
Mack Grant
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Hoffa fears the rank and file. He's only good at appearing on the sunday "news" shows as a spokesman. Negotiating contracts and talking to members is out of his league.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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This is why I lack the team of Hoffa and Hall. Hall does the grunt work while Hoffa deals with the suits. Each plays to their strengths.
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So you are saying that hall is the actual person who does the selling out and not hoffa. Hoffa is just in charge of selling the sell out.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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That's not at all what I said and I am not in the mood to argue.
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Blue in Brown
Why didn't UPS & 804 issue a joint press release when this started?
Something addressing the main issues, along the lines of:
1. UPS & 804 remain dedicated to fair, equitable treatment of all employees.
2. We acknowledge our shortcomings in addressing some employee concerns.
3. Procedural reviews have been initiated to identify & correct these problems.
4. Disciplinary action for all involved is hereby stayed until our
review is completed.
5. However UPS cannot abide independent strike action that harms our most valuable
resource....our customers.
6. Upon completion of our procedural reviews, those participating in said incident will be subject
to sanctions mutually agreed upon by UPS, Local 804, and The International Brotherhood Of
Teamsters.
Then you close the door, sit down and work out a solution.
The public, shareholders and customers are reassured.
UPS & The Teamsters present a more united, cohesive front while the knockout, drag down stuff stays in private...where it belongs.
Something addressing the main issues, along the lines of:
1. UPS & 804 remain dedicated to fair, equitable treatment of all employees.
2. We acknowledge our shortcomings in addressing some employee concerns.
3. Procedural reviews have been initiated to identify & correct these problems.
4. Disciplinary action for all involved is hereby stayed until our
review is completed.
5. However UPS cannot abide independent strike action that harms our most valuable
resource....our customers.
6. Upon completion of our procedural reviews, those participating in said incident will be subject
to sanctions mutually agreed upon by UPS, Local 804, and The International Brotherhood Of
Teamsters.
Then you close the door, sit down and work out a solution.
The public, shareholders and customers are reassured.
UPS & The Teamsters present a more united, cohesive front while the knockout, drag down stuff stays in private...where it belongs.
Just like they apologized for the peak mess? Or made any kind of a real statement!
