Working termination

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Scooter, Jan 6, 2020.

  1. Scooter

    Scooter New Member

    Can anyone tell me what a working termination is???? I’m a ups Freight driver with 27 yrs under his belt. I had a minor accident ( well, nothing is minor with ups ) I was cleared to come back to work and ride with our safety guy. This morning I was told that a warning letter would be issued and then the words “working termination” came up. Just curious as to what this means. I’m WELL over the 10 year mark for any incident accident or otherwise. Can anyone help with clearing this up for me?? Tomorrow morning the company lawyer will be at our terminal for a few questions for me.

    thanks for any help you can give to help explain working termination.
     
  2. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    First you need to speak with your Shop Steward or call your local and speak with your Buisness Agent.

    A working termination is when you are being investigated. I don't know Freights contract but here you can not be terminated without recieving a warning letter first unless it's one of the "cardinal sins" like dishonest, unauthorized passenger, reckless driving accident.

    If they think your accident was major or do to recklessness they will put you on a working termination while they determine if it was.
     
  3. silverbullet2893

    silverbullet2893 KILL KILL!!

    Don’t answer a :censored2: thing without a shop steward present. Nothing.


    And good luck.
     
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  4. Scooter

    Scooter New Member

    Appreciate it! Really do!!
     
  5. 22.34life

    22.34life Active Member

    At ups small package a working termination is called an intent to terminate.giving u 10 working days to file a grievance.
     
  6. silverbullet2893

    silverbullet2893 KILL KILL!!

    best of luck to you.
     
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  7. Scooter

    Scooter New Member

    Thanks man! This is just so un-nerving
     
  8. Scooter

    Scooter New Member

    You BUST YOUR ASS, do what’s right, go above and beyond and they wanna make you feel like sh$t when you have a simple fender bender!
     
  9. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    We had a driver on a working termination for almost a year. In the end nothing happened. It is an intimidation tactic to scare you and your coworkers.
     
  10. Scooter

    Scooter New Member

    Thanks buddy! That kinda sets my mind at ease
     
  11. no_map_needed

    no_map_needed Knowledge is key, Experience is power.

    You'll be bac.
     
  12. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Well-Known Member

    Don’t answer anything without union representation. If a lawyer is asking questions, don’t answer anything without your attorney present.
     
  13. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    A working termination is where they fire you, but you continue to work pending the outcome of the disciplinary process.
     
  14. Analbumcover

    Analbumcover ControlPkgs

    Our shop steward put it best- if they REALLY wanted to fire you, you wouldn't be allowed back on the property pending your hearing.
     
  15. BrownMonk

    BrownMonk Old fart Package Car Driver

    Was it a serious accident under DOT guidelines?
     
  16. Skooney

    Skooney Active Member

    Just curious, where was your shop steward and why didn't you ask him? Lol..