9.5

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by screamin chicken, Jul 7, 2016.

  1. Im trying to get on the 9.5 list, tonight will make my 3 this week, only problem is I was called to work preload at 720 this am, But I was on the rd from 920 until 2038 , can I still get on the 9.5
     
  2. burrheadd

    burrheadd Superstar

    Why wouldn't you?
     
  3. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    You worked over 9.5, so yeah.
     
  4. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    9.5 isn't drive time, it's punch to punch.
     
  5. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Because he "volunteered" for extra work?

    How do you make that claim from the other side of the fence?
     
  6. wide load

    wide load Well-Known Member

    Cuz he still drove from 9:20 to 20:38?
     
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  7. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    I agree he/she was dispatched to work more than 9.5 as a driver, but don't you see how volunteering for extra work prior in the preload diffuses an employee's claim that they don't want the overtime?

    A competent labor manager would surely make that argument and deadlock the grievance, why wouldn't they?

    You can't live on both sides of the fence.
     
  8. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Tell the company you want to sign the list, based on your "on road" hours.

    If they refuse, file a grievance.



    You have a valid point.



    The OP didn't state he "volunteered".

    It would help to know what supplement he is covered by.



    -Bug-
     
  9. wide load

    wide load Well-Known Member

    Was he/she volunteering to come in early? Or were they forced?
     
  10. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Nope. It's not about the OT. It's about what time one gets off work.


    I know that's the case for me and it's probably the case for a whole lot of people.


    I would have no problem working 10+ hours a day if we started at 6am.
     
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  11. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    How is a full time driver "forced" to come in early to work the preload?
     
  12. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    That's not how the language is written.

    While I understand the semantics of your statement, it really is not relevant to Art 37.
     
  13. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    If he was trying to get paid for a 9.5 grievance you might have a point.


    I don't see anyone arguing too much for him to just be put on the 9.5 list.
     
  14. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Had a driver once who signed up to run early am's every day, when his seniority prevailed.
    Most days his seniority did.
    He did it for years, then decided that he wanted to file for 9.5 and continue to deliver the early am's.
    He got laughed out of the room at the Local level hearing.
    Why wouldn't he?
     
  15. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    It's their "one bite of the apple", every five months.
    They are being told to protect as if it were a paying grievance, because without being on the list, there are no grievances.
     
  16. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I guess it depends on how you look at it.


    I just see that as a way to use his seniority to bump up his start time.


    I see both sides of the argument.
     
  17. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Depends on where you are I guess.


    It's all crap anyway. You should opt out of the 9.5 list every 5 months. Not opt in.
     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Can they force drivers to work the preload?
     
  19. wide load

    wide load Well-Known Member

    image.jpeg Now I guess you'll give the googled definitions of forced vs ordered.
     
  20. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    We have that happen. Usually the work is offered but can be forced.

    We also have early AM routes, which are bid 7:30am. Because it's rural the airs need to get out there early and the rest shuttled. If you are a cover, you can be "forced" to run one of these routes.