UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
d, we are vested after only 5 years here.
We all know you love to give the intimate details of your life, but I bet the feeder driver in your post may not want you to divulge the details of his life. Perhaps I will ask him and see what he says.We had a husband and wife team (both FT drivers) who had a young daughter and ran in to the same issues. The girl knew her grandparents better than she knew her own parents so the wife ended up leaving UPS to go work for the local power company (NYSEG), where she has "normal" hours. I ran in to her the other day and I commented on how she got her smile back and how much happier she looked and she agreed that it was the best thing she could have done. Did they lose money--absolutely--but there are more important things in life than money. The husband is now a feeder driver who works at night so he is able to take care of their daughter when she comes home from school. Summers are still an issue but that is only 3 months as compared to 12.
(On a side note, husband actually resented the fact that the wife chose to leave UPS--all he could see was the loss of income)
Back to 9.5 again.....
There are two centers in my building. One center has about 20 bid drivers on the 9.5 list. The other center, mine, has no drivers on it at all.
I remember several months ago this 9.5 list had about five or six drivers on it. Today a driver in my center told me he was on the 9.5 list, but his sup approached him, and advised him "As a Friend" to take his name off the list, or management would "have him in their sights." After hearing this it's no surprise why there is no 9.5 list in our center.
Maybe if drivers were able to exercise their rights under the contract without fear of retaliation from management, we wouldn't have so many people on layoff. Also several drivers (myself included) wouldn't be having their routes busted two or three times a week with others getting 11 and 12 hour days. I would prefer to do MY route, every day, without having to ask someone to go home two or three days a week so I can work!!
This 9.5 language doesn't really fly in our center.
K
Believe it or not the problem isn't just management. Its drivers with no guts and not cojones that are the problem. If we back down from threats then they have us right where they want us.
I really have a hard time with that. Forget? How can you forget something that determines whether you have a job or not?Eventually, this driver forgot a panel hearing
Believe it or not the problem isn't just management. Its drivers with no guts and not cojones that are the problem. If we back down from threats then they have us right where they want us.
I knew a driver that continually stood up for his rights, filed grievances, etc. Management tried firing him many times. Eventually, this driver forgot a panel hearing and was GONZO.
I really have a hard time with that. Forget? How can you forget something that determines whether you have a job or not?
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Ok we need to go over their heads to beat the 9.5 problem. i have not heard of anyone getting paid for 9.5 grievances in my area.. Most guys wont go over 9.5 or they don't dare file because they know the harassing, ojs rides and the threats will soon follow, it seems ups has jacked around with the time allowance in our area, Routes don't even plan up to 8 hours anymore and drivers are over by 1 to 2 hours Many drivers work off the clock in the morning and or skip their lunch. I know this happens across the nation.
Here is my idea we go over their heads we go to Congress to change several laws.. The democrats are in power and seem to be targeting big business well Ups is BIG.
It's time for change... lets change the time and a half for overtime to Double time it's been time and a half for to long now.
Forced overtime we need to make overtime a choice not be forced to work overtime if we don't want to..
lets start our own letter writing campaign to our members of Congress, I hope we can come up with a script/ form letter I'd be willing to write a letter and get some of my coworkers to write a letter, Ups is taking advantage of us by forcing overtime, taking time away from our families and only paying time and ahalf.... that is not enough they make a big profit by forcing us to work overtime.
I am in no way slamming you, I am lucky that my wife is able to stay home and take care of my three kids. However the Teamsters have not ever approved these long hours! The Teamsters have negotiated language on your behalf that will help to eliminate the long hours or put triple time in to your pocket. It is up to you to file for it. The union cant fix your problem without you filing and informing them that your hours are a problem.
Something has to be done, we are over worked. I had 166 last night and clocked out at 9:15, today I had 184 clocked out at 10:00 it BS. And Im off tomorrow and my route has 127......
Funny. When I'm off, my stop count goes UP. Wonder why yours is different?
All week my loader had to leave about 30 minutes before he was done, so I had to load my car until 9:30 am then do a 9.5 day, cha-ching!While re-arranging your load, I hope you don't twist an ankle!
NOT on the clock
NOT a workplace injury
NOT a DART Injury (UPS will love you for that!)
Good luck my friend!! DON'T WORK OFF THE CLOCK
..hit 26K with this check today...think ill hit 100k?..