Air Driver Seniority

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by AlwaysChafed, Jul 23, 2013.

  1. AlwaysChafed

    AlwaysChafed Member

    Is the seniority date the same as ground - 30 days worked within 90, correct? I ask because I had 30 days within 90 about a year ago (air). Nobody said anything. And then the fact if it is 30/90, I actually have a seniority date on something, and I'm owed since my $11.50 wage hasn't changed.
     
  2. hyena

    hyena I shut down BC

    You get top rate after two years
     
  3. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    You do not have to go through seniority twice. Talking company seniority not classification seniority. Seniority $12.50. Seniority plus 12 months $13.00. Seniority plus 18 months $13.50. 24 months top rate $24.74.
     
  4. AlwaysChafed

    AlwaysChafed Member

    So if I get air seniority I don't need to gain ground seniority?
     
  5. AlwaysChafed

    AlwaysChafed Member

    I went through our contract book. It looks like I'm owed a date and a ton of back pay.

    My previous question still stands. If I get a seniority date in air, do I still need to qualify for ground?
     
  6. UPSER110

    UPSER110 Active Member

    You are p/t air, correct? If so then you will still have to go through Full time seniority for ground (F/t Driver). Thats where the 30 in 90 qualification comes into play.
     
  7. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    There are different progressions.

    Air driver is two years, FT driver is four years. After two years you'll make top rate as an air driver. If you go FT driving, you'll enter a new progression and have a four year progression. Like was said, you'll have to make 30 days in 90 to qualify.
     
  8. AlwaysChafed

    AlwaysChafed Member

    Thanks everyone. Appreciate the help got everything worked out w/ my sup this morning and he agreed.
     
  9. UPSER110

    UPSER110 Active Member

    Do they owe you back pay??
     
  10. AlwaysChafed

    AlwaysChafed Member

    Yes. If my calculation is correct, which everyone agrees with, I would have had a p/t air date in May of 2012.
     
  11. AlwaysChafed

    AlwaysChafed Member

    OK, now, anytime a ground package is delivered or transported from center to center, driver to driver, etc. and I'm the person doing this, any package that is driven/delivered by me counts as a day correct?
     
  12. AlwaysChafed

    AlwaysChafed Member

    ?
     
  13. AlwaysChafed

    AlwaysChafed Member

    Anyone?
     
  14. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    You should get top driver pay for that day. $32.?? .
     
  15. AlwaysChafed

    AlwaysChafed Member

    No, I don't have a seniority date yet.
     
  16. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    Correct, if you DELIVER any ground work it's ground rate. If you shuttle ground you'll probably have to file a grievance. If you are not getting ground rate, and you ask to correct wages to ground rate when you shuttle or deliver grounds, expect the work to go elsewhere.
     
  17. BSWALKS

    BSWALKS Easily Amused

    This scenario sounds very familiar.
     
  18. midwest brown

    midwest brown Member

    I'm a PT air driver now that shuttles air packages from one center to another and I got a ground pkg a few weeks ago. Asked if I got ground rate and they told me since I'm an "exemption" driver I'm allowed to drive those without ground pay. Anyone heard of this or is this what I should be filing on
     
  19. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    yeah it's actually exception air, not exemption. That sounds legit.
     
  20. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    Why's that? Personal experience?