Christianity

[Integrity]

No matter how limited the choice, no matter how those limitations are reached in your life, you still have choice.

Please tell me how you personally had any choice in the womb from which you entered the earth from.

 

[Integrity]

KISS
Keep It Simple Stupid.
You can write stupid. It's ok.

No I had it right.

I never utilize that slogan.

Only “Keep It Simple”.

 

[BrownFlush]

Another example of a limitation.

No.
Food for thought... Calvinist teach one cannot help (no choice, no free will) if God "chose" "predestined"you to go to heaven. No matter how you live, how much you sin, you're going to heaven
Nothing could be further from truth.

 

[BrownFlush]

Please tell me how you personally had any choice in the womb from which you entered the earth from.

You don't. I stated that.

I don't find where they chose to be born.

 

[Integrity]

No.
Food for thought... Calvinist teach one cannot help (no choice, no free will) if God "chose" "predestined"you to go to heaven. No matter how you live, how much you sin, you're going to heaven
Nothing could be further from truth.

Wut?

 

[BrownFlush]

No I had it right.

I never utilize that slogan.

Only “Keep It Simple”.

I think the word stupid is fitting on occasion.

 

[BrownFlush]

Wut?

Over your head?
I'll back off.

 

[Integrity]

I don't find where they chose to be born.

So we agree.

I think?

 

[Integrity]

I think the word stupid is fitting on occasion.

I exercise my free will and right to choose to disagree with you.

 

[BrownFlush]

So we agree.

I think?

What is the point?
If there is no choice when one is conceived or dies, is that supposed to open the door to limiting free will?

 

[Integrity]

Over your head?
I'll back off.

I don’t know but maybe.

You had my head spinning.

 

[BrownFlush]

I exercise my free will and right to choose to disagree with you.

yes..... KIS..........................................................S

 

[El Correcto]

No matter how limited the choice, no matter how those limitations are reached in your life, you still have choice.

This is wonderful I’ll cut out the stupid rhetorical questions since you have decided to back track and correct your mistakes.

Now prove the choice they have over their nature; their neurology mostly and their nurture their upbringing.

Show me where there is room for choice in any of this and how free will truly exists in this (you admitted it) handicapped “choice” of options.

 

[Integrity]

What is the point?
If there is no choice when one is conceived or dies, is that supposed to open the door to limiting free will?

Not open the door.

I believe “free will” is granted by God to humans but it is limited.

 

[El Correcto]

I cannot disprove free will completely just like I can’t disprove the idea of some supernatural concept of a creator. But I can certainly point out ways it isn’t needed to arrive at where we are at.

 

[Integrity]

yes..... KIS..........................................................S

Ok…..?

 

[BrownFlush]

Ok…..?

Choose ....
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[Integrity]

I cannot disprove free will completely just like I can’t disprove the idea of some supernatural concept of a creator. But I can certainly point out ways it isn’t needed to arrive at where we are at.

Ok.

So what do you mean by “where we are at”?

 

[Integrity]

Choose ....
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Not sure of your point?

 

[El Correcto]

Ok.

So what do you mean by “where we are at”?

I just mean reality in general. I prefer naturalist explanations based on sound logic and evidence.

I do not see these things in arguments for free will and god, only a reliance on our lack to reliably completely dismiss these based on those things.