Clerk Firing

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bleujade

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Hello. I would like to know if anyone knows the job of an OMS clerk and a ECS clerk. I'm told that ECS clerks are not to go on the trucks and pull packages, that it's the OMS clerks job. Because I have an OMS clerk who doesn't want to pull packages and I'm in there until almost 10 @ night, while she goes home. And my center is the only center where the ECS clerks have to help the OMS clerks do their job. Even the management doesn't know the job description. Please help!!!!!
 

UnconTROLLed

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Hello. I would like to know if anyone knows the job of an OMS clerk and a ECS clerk. I'm told that ECS clerks are not to go on the trucks and pull packages, that it's the OMS clerks job. Because I have an OMS clerk who doesn't want to pull packages and I'm in there until almost 10 @ night, while she goes home. And my center is the only center where the ECS clerks have to help the OMS clerks do their job. Even the management doesn't know the job description. Please help!!!!!

Who cares who goes and pulls packages?

If you're an ECS clerk, you're probably drooling as you mindlessly wander over to car 536623, having a quick snack in the back of the truck- maybe check the scores of the game on your cell phone on the way back after grabbing it.

If you're an OMS clerk, you're probably hurrying along trying to avoid being seen as to not waste any more time outside of your chair in the office as possible. You grab the package and frazzle a whole bunch of DCRs and concerns along the way back to make yourself look important and busy.

Either way it's pulled
 

ikoi62

Well-Known Member
Hello. I would like to know if anyone knows the job of an OMS clerk and a ECS clerk. I'm told that ECS clerks are not to go on the trucks and pull packages, that it's the OMS clerks job. Because I have an OMS clerk who doesn't want to pull packages and I'm in there until almost 10 @ night, while she goes home. And my center is the only center where the ECS clerks have to help the OMS clerks do their job. Even the management doesn't know the job description. Please help!!!!!

it should be the ecs clerk pulling the package, the OMS is not a union person and should not be touching packages.
 

UnconTROLLed

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it should be the ecs clerk pulling the package, the OMS is not a union person and should not be touching packages.

Non-union should not be doing work of the bargaining unit.

There is nothing in the contract about "touching packages".

In some centers (two small buildings I have worked in), OMS always find the DCR packages on-car. In the hub I currently work in, both OMS and ECS find DCRs in building. If they know how to use ETT DMS etc etc, either should be able to find the drivers name, car, tracking # and eventually in DMS the section the package is in.

I am a friend/T PAS clerk now and was a friend/T counter/ECS before, have done OMS work also (forced)

Since it's a question of what is bargaining unit work and what isn't, I don't see why OMS should not be able to find and retrieve DCRs as it (to my knowledge) has never been clear who's clerical work it "belongs to".
 

Mike Hawk

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It's a grey area, pulling DCR's isn't defined in the contract as union work, but it is handling packages. If it could be done by union employees it probably should, however there is not always one around so in that case an OMS will do.
 

LLTailor

Active Member
How about a 40 minute bathroom break every hour of the shift?
Some people really gotta go and may have issues with irregularity.
 

705red

Browncafe Steward
Hello. I would like to know if anyone knows the job of an OMS clerk and a ECS clerk. I'm told that ECS clerks are not to go on the trucks and pull packages, that it's the OMS clerks job. Because I have an OMS clerk who doesn't want to pull packages and I'm in there until almost 10 @ night, while she goes home. And my center is the only center where the ECS clerks have to help the OMS clerks do their job. Even the management doesn't know the job description. Please help!!!!!
Are you union? If it involves movement of the package its a union job!
 

Cementups

Box Monkey
I can't imagine ANYBODY getting fired for stealing time, especially in my building. I see so many inside hourlies doing anything but work everyday, all the time.
 

ikoi62

Well-Known Member
Since it's a question of what is bargaining unit work and what isn't, I don't see why OMS should not be able to find and retrieve DCRs as it (to my knowledge) has never been clear who's clerical work it "belongs to".
Since a Iecs and dcr involves correcting a package or holding it for will call or any number of other things,the oms should hand the paperwork to the ecs clerk and let him or her do the work.
After all OMS stands for Operations Management Specialist. so it is clear in any contract that they are management personnel and should not be touching or handling packages.
 

UnconTROLLed

perfection
Since a Iecs and dcr involves correcting a package or holding it for will call or any number of other things,the oms should hand the paperwork to the ecs clerk and let him or her do the work.
After all OMS stands for Operations Management Specialist. so it is clear in any contract that they are management personnel and should not be touching or handling packages.

Once again, this is your opinion. The contract does not mention touching or handling packages in language.
 
Once again, this is your opinion. The contract does not mention touching or handling packages in language.
Not in those words. However OMS people are considered supervisors (most of them will tell you that everyday) and it is understood through many years of UPS/teamster negotiations, contracts and just plain old common sense that the forward progress of a package is not to be done physically by management. \
From the current contract.
Section 7. Supervisors Working
(a) The Employer agrees that the function of supervisors is the supervision of Employees and not the
performance of the work of the employees they supervise. Accordingly, the Employer agrees that
supervisors or other employees of the Employer who are not members of the bargaining unit shall not
perform any bargaining unit work,
except to train employees or demonstrate safety, or as otherwise
provided in the applicable Supplement, Rider or Addendum.
 

705red

Browncafe Steward
Once again, this is your opinion. The contract does not mention touching or handling packages in language.
If it forwards the progress of a package from point a (the truck) to point b (computer station) its union work! Oms's are to supervise while union employees are to handle the packages!
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
One of our preload clerks was just fired for "stealing time" after his mother called him on his cellphone and asked him to pick up her personal medicine. This is stupid, the converstation lasted less than 30 seconds, but people beware, the management is looking to fire to cut costs and salary, so be careful, and leave your cell phones in your personal cars.

Or another way of saying IHATEUPSBUTLOVETHEBENFITS is ButTheBenefitsAreGreat...I Smell a BBAG.:funny:
 
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