Crazy things they've made us do..

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

since you don't know what his route entails, he probably had 10-15 more deliveries to do in between his air stops according to orion.
Orion has eta time stamps for each delivery. So breaking off 5 miles to do those other deliveries puts him behind for the rest of the day, sorta like a snowball effect

The thing is he didn't have to break off as HE DROVE RIGHT BY THEM!

 

[cosmo1]

Let's suppose those two air stops were in his EDD. Would Orion have still had him drive by those two stops or would they have been his first two stops?

(I will--thanks)

If they were assigned to his truck (in his EDD), yes, they may have been ordered earlier.

The ORION solution is not completed until the preload is done.

 

[toonertoo]

Not likely, but his boss TOLD him to go to his first ORION stop. And yes you have 20 minutes if you left the building when Orion thinks you did, if you got out 15 late, you have five, and if it had you digging out pkgs , instead of them magically being in reach, you may not have enough time. You have to learn what to skip, and when to break.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Suppose the OP would have done the right thing and delivered the air on the way to his first stop. Don't you think his on-car and center manager would have thanked him for making the right call? (Yes, I am being serious)

 

[toonertoo]

The thing is he didn't have to break off as HE DROVE RIGHT BY THEM!

That is breaking trace, because the trace doesnt start until the first ordered Orion stop is completed.

 

[Richard Harrow]

There is no way Orion could have accounted for those two air stops and rather than use common sense you chose to drive by those stops rather than deliver them.

You made a poor decision.

Yes. Because this driver was responsible for over-dispatching the EAM driver.

 

[toonertoo]

Suppose the OP would have done the right thing and delivered the air on the way to his first stop. Don't you think his on-car and center manager would have thanked him for making the right call? (Yes, I am being serious)

No, He would be on a report tomorrow. And they would be getting an a** chewing for a driver not going to his first stop. I know yes, it is common sense. But it will get you in the office.

 

[Shifting Contents]

I have not run my first stop in months. Hard to justify a ground stop before air when you leave the building 20 mins after start every day.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I have not run my first stop in months. Hard to justify a ground stop before air when you leave the building 20 mins after start every day.

Would you have driven by those two air stops?

 

[Shifting Contents]

Would you have driven by those two air stops?

No, however we are very strict as drivers in getting this stuff add/cut before we leave the building and refusing to run stuff without add/cuts being done.

 

[wayfair]

Would you have driven by those two air stops?

ONLY if they were on the same street... no trace breaks if on the same street

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

No, however we are very strict as drivers in getting this stuff add/cut before we leave the building and refusing to run stuff without add/cuts being done.

The OP met the EAM driver on road and took the stops to help him. They are not in your EDD. What do you do?

 

[nayrsiem]

Our center has been on Orion for almost 2 years and we haven't gotten the "1st stop no matter what" stuff yet. I'm sure it will come at some point but so far it's just about hitting that %85 number

 

[cosmo1]

Suppose the OP would have done the right thing and delivered the air on the way to his first stop. Don't you think his on-car and center manager would have thanked him for making the right call? (Yes, I am being serious)

It would depend on how badly his on-car and center manager were being berated by the DM on the daily conference call.

You have no idea yet, Dave.

None.

 

[cosmo1]

The OP met the EAM driver on road and took the stops to help him. They are not in your EDD. What do you do?

Follow ORION and center instructions.

 

[JackStraw]

NOBODY is smarter than Orion. Once you realize this, things get easier.

 

[JackStraw]

One day Orion had me driving to the middle of my route to do a ground stop as my 1st, then driving back to the beginning of my route to start my airs. Normally I would make the decision on my own and flag the 1st til later. But now we have to get approval the skip OFS. I figure that this is so absurd that even my anal retentive OC would agree and say "Yeah your right this makes no sense" Nope. He said I gotta do it. Part of me thinks he was doing it to be an a-hole and I came this close(two fingers held very close to each other) telling him he was just that, another part thinks that he's feeling the heat from above and his hands are tied. so I did it.

 

[wayfair]

The OP met the EAM driver on road and took the stops to help him. They are not in your EDD. What do you do?

just say "hey, remember that time I helped out with so and so's air"

when you're getting "talked to"

 

[OPTION3]

Suppose the OP would have done the right thing and delivered the air on the way to his first stop. Don't you think his on-car and center manager would have thanked him for making the right call? (Yes, I am being serious)

Yes......with a warning letter for failure to follow instructions

 

[Packmule]

The whole point of Orion is to make sure management is micromanaging everything so drivers aren't allowed to think.