CRT Will Destroy Unions

[rickyb]

That's a great example of successful co-ops making it work. Fast forward to 2017 and their unemployment was 70% higher, and even 25% higher than ours right now. And with co-ops, you still have elected officials running the show, singular entities, not workers voting on how the business is run. Look, I love the idea, but the plausibility just isn't there. Socialism still has rich and poor, no different than any other society. At least in my society, I can decide to not be poor.

the workers can vote in managers if it direct democracy is too inefficient.

1 worker 1 vote not 1 share 1 vote.

 

[rickyb]

That's a great example of successful co-ops making it work. Fast forward to 2017 and their unemployment was 70% higher, and even 25% higher than ours right now. And with co-ops, you still have elected officials running the show, singular entities, not workers voting on how the business is run. Look, I love the idea, but the plausibility just isn't there. Socialism still has rich and poor, no different than any other society. At least in my society, I can decide to not be poor.

in mondragon they cut hours instead of lay off workers.

 

[baklava]

public health care, public education, and so many other things.

fixed it for you. “Free” is a term used by the right to shoot these ideas down. Don’t help them.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

The end of all Union comes with socialism only the government and corporations have power. And they will no longer negotiate. Blue Power forever. CRT

That is one of the goals of BLM … destroy the existing culture and trust in the governments.

 

[rickyb]

That is one of the goals of BLM … destroy the existing culture and trust in the governments.

cockroach had a higher rating than US congress last i heard.

its corporate occupied territory, only a few suckers trust govt now anyways.

 

[quad decade guy]

No, I know the dream of Socialism and there's much more to it than community ownership when it comes to labor. We've also see how it works out.

How it works out....You mean the hundreds of millions of murders?

 

[PT Car Washer]

That is one of the goals of BLM … destroy the existing culture and trust in the governments.

I thought that was trumps goal.

 

[Brownsocks]

I love how someone named communist is posting about Socialism destroying unions when there are many Nordic countries who are thriving, while being Socialist, and having huge unions, free health care, free education, and so many other things.

It would be Unconstitutional to ban private insurance, and it would be immoral to replace the world's best Healthcare with socialized medicine. We already have public education and it is continually outpaced by private schools. Imo we need to fix what we got.

 

[rickyb]

It would be Unconstitutional to ban private insurance, and it would be immoral to replace the world's best Healthcare with socialized medicine. We already have public education and it is continually outpaced by private schools. Imo we need to fix what we got.

your healthcare is not one of the worlds best.

its the worlds most expensive with average results. for example i googled your hospitals vs canadian hospitals the ratings are pretty comparable yet our system is 40% cheaper or so.

your public education has been defunded so schools are falling apart, teachers arent well paid, and you have the worlds highest tuition for post secondary which puts you at a compettive disadvantage not to mention turns your young adults into debt slaves.

 

[BeefiestMass]

It would be Unconstitutional to ban private insurance, and it would be immoral to replace the world's best Healthcare with socialized medicine. We already have public education and it is continually outpaced by private schools. Imo we need to fix what we got.

Most of the countries that have public healthcare also still have private insurance on top of it. The best healthcare systems in the world work this way.

 

[Brownsocks]

Most of the countries that have public healthcare also still have private insurance on top of it. The best healthcare systems in the world work this way.

Democrats big M4A plan bans private insurance and like I said our healthcare is superior when available

 

[baklava]

it would be immoral to replace the world's best Healthcare with socialized medicine

Socialized health insurance. What’s immoral is the price gouging that exists in our system.

 

[baklava]

Democrats big M4A plan bans private insurance and like I said our healthcare is superior when available

Don’t worry, they’re all talk. The Democrats have no interest in actually doing this.

 

[Brownsocks]

your healthcare is not one of the worlds best.

its the worlds most expensive with average results. for example i googled your hospitals vs canadian hospitals the ratings are pretty comparable yet our system is 40% cheaper or so.

your public education has been defunded so schools are falling apart, teachers arent well paid, and you have the worlds highest tuition for post secondary which puts you at a compettive disadvantage not to mention turns your young adults into debt slaves.

Google world's best hospitals, doctors, wait times, cancer treatments before you come at me.
40% cheaper care is what the Canadians get for their socialism and they still have to pay for their dental, optical and pharmaceuticals.

 

[BeefiestMass]

your healthcare is not one of the worlds best.

its the worlds most expensive with average results. for example i googled your hospitals vs canadian hospitals the ratings are pretty comparable yet our system is 40% cheaper or so.

your public education has been defunded so schools are falling apart, teachers arent well paid, and you have the worlds highest tuition for post secondary which puts you at a compettive disadvantage not to mention turns your young adults into debt slaves.

Our education system is very good. Our healthcare is OK. You *can* get great healthcare here (see all of us at UPS), but I think a lot of people here forget how exceptional our healthcare is compared to literally everyone else's. We also don't see how much it costs, both in literal costs, and in better pay/other benefits/etc. lost in contract negotiations bc of that cost.

 

[rickyb]

Google world's best hospitals, doctors, wait times, cancer treatments before you come at me.
40% cheaper care is what the Canadians get for their socialism and they still have to pay for their dental, optical and pharmaceuticals.

pharma is covered if you are poor to some degree. not sure about dental and optical. you can get it if you have work insurance. the US only has average outcomes, like i said.

 

[BeefiestMass]

Democrats big M4A plan bans private insurance and like I said our healthcare is superior when available

That may be true. I'm only familiar with Sanders' plan, which does not. In any case, that's the kind of stuff that's supposed to get worked out and negotiated in Congress. No plan goes through as originally written (eg ACA).

 

[Old Man Jingles]

I thought that was trumps goal.

Trump wanted to destroy the culture of big government!
He strongly believed in the American Spirit and American Culture.

BLM wants to be pull down the American Culture and replace it with a Marxist culture.

 

[Wally]

I love how someone named communist is posting about Socialism destroying unions when there are many Nordic countries who are thriving, while being Socialist, and having huge unions, free health care, free education, and so many other things.

How will they do if Russia or China decides to march in?

 

[BeefiestMass]

Google world's best hospitals, doctors, wait times, cancer treatments before you come at me.
40% cheaper care is what the Canadians get for their socialism and they still have to pay for their dental, optical and pharmaceuticals.

I did that. We're number one for best hospital and doctor apparently. Not great for wait times, but pretty good for cancer treatment. The caveat is, can you afford that best hospital, best doctor, and good cancer treatment?