Do your post-trip before you come back to the building????

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by 104Feeder, Oct 3, 2015.

  1. 104Feeder

    104Feeder Phoenix Feeder

    Apparently our Business Agent got in a heated argument with an ORION Band of Idiots who were telling package drivers to complete their post trip out on road when they had 4-5 stops left. Has this been going on anywhere else?
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  2. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Are these people from Feeder?
  3. retiredTxfeeder

    retiredTxfeeder cap'n crunch

    How can it be a post trip, if the driver is still trippin? Maybe because it is easier to explain away time OTR rather than after you get back to the building? Wow, never ceases to amaze sometimes.
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  4. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

    Ummm no way I'm doing a post trip on area with stops left. That's insane.
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    1BROWNWRENCH Amatuer Malthusian

    At least maybe it's getting done by some of you. I find lots of stuff that wasn't reported by just walking around the building. There's room for improvement here no matter where it gets done.
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  6. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    Granted lots of guys don't post trip, but the reason stuff isn't written up isn't lack of seeing it--it's guys not caring about it. When I was a cover guy I saw a ton of things wrong with most trucks I drove.
    If it was a spare truck I'd write it all up. If it was a bid route driver's truck & it was something non-safety that appeared to be existing for a while I'd make sure the bid driver knew about it. If it was something that broke that day, I'd write it up. If it was safety related I'd write it up.

    Since I got my own route if it's safety I write it up, if it's non-safety I tell my mechanic in person and let him do it when he has time.
  7. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Why? Just write everything up, safety or otherwise. It creates a paper trail and covers your butt if something does happen.
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  8. Future

    Future Well-Known Member

    had a guy years ago when i was cover....never wrote things up .....was afraid they would pull his truck out ......I would write them up was crazy that he didnt
  9. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    P.S. Unfortunately, there is no DOT requirement for a post-trip inspection, only a post trip report.

    § 396.13: Driver inspection.

    Before driving a motor vehicle, the driver shall:

    (a) Be satisfied that the motor vehicle is in safe operating condition;

    (b) Review the last driver vehicle inspection report; and

    (c) Sign the report, only if defects or deficiencies were noted by the driver who prepared the report, to acknowledge that the driver has reviewed it and that there is a certification that the required repairs have been performed. The signature requirement does not apply to listed defects on a towed unit which is no longer part of the vehicle combination.

    Question 25: Section 396.11 requires the driver, at the completion of each day’s work, to prepare a written report on each vehicle operated that day. Does this section require a "post trip inspection" of the kind described in §396.15?
    Guidance: No. However, the written report must include all defects in the parts and accessories listed in §396.11(a) that were discovered by or reported to the driver during that day.

    Here are the complete DOT regulations:

    That being said, there could be state regulations requiring a post-trip and it's company policy to do a post trip. As dumb as it is, if management tells you to do a post trip on the road, do it as long as you've done a proper pre-trip.
  10. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    Here is an excerpt from the methods:
  11. Future

    Future Well-Known Member

    Thank you for that ....did give me a little refresher......
  12. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    How do I walk around the vehicle after I park it flush against the dock?
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.


    1BROWNWRENCH Amatuer Malthusian

    I'm largely talking about punctured and flat tires.

    1BROWNWRENCH Amatuer Malthusian

    It is crazy to not write it up. It will just get worse and I WILL find it eventually and it will be pulled for even longer when I do.
  16. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Eva Mendez Has A Nice (_!_)

    And the methods shall set us free!
  17. reginald396

    reginald396 Member

    My post trip consists of answering a couple of questions.

    Did I hit something? No.
    Does the truck run? Yes.

    Ok good I'm out.
  18. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    I don't even know why he would talk to them.

    They are low level management.

    One step above a part-time supervisor. :biggrin:

  19. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    another show of integrity.
  20. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    disagree with your last sentence. post trip means post trip and I would tell management so. I'm the one with the CDL and have to obey federal and state laws which supercedes UPS rules or directives if they are against those laws. have had many arguments with UPS bosses on this and eventually they capitulated.