Election 2016

moreluck

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Sportello

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Fools rush in.


http://www.npr.org/2016/02/02/46526...n=politics&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews

It's been reported that there were as many as six sites where ties were decided by the flip of a coin — and Clinton won every single one. The odds of that happening are 1 in 64, or less than 2 percent. What's more, that gave her just slightly more than her margin of victory over Sanders — four delegates.


Things that make you go hmm. Indeed.


Here's proof: Watch one of these coin-toss tiebreakers in this video, taken by Univision reporter Fernando Peinado at a caucus precinct:


Except that doesn't tell the whole story. In fact, there were at least a dozen tiebreakers — and "Sen. Sanders won at least a handful," an Iowa Democratic Party official told NPR.


Gone unmentioned so far is that even if Clinton won that Miracle Six — and there were no other coin tosses — it would make little difference in the outcome. That is, in part, because of the complicated way Iowa Democrats allocate their delegates — and what was being reported on election night and what wasn't.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...nces-when-sanders-shorted-delegates/79902080/

Keane Schwarz is certain he knows the outcome of the vote in his precinct: He was the lone caucusgoer in Woodbury County No. 43.
But the Iowa Democratic Party's final results state that Hillary Clinton won one county delegate and Bernie Sanders received zero.
"I voted for Bernie," Schwarz, 36, of Oto, told The Des Moines Register. “It was really suspicious … I’m actually pretty irate about it.”
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...nces-when-sanders-shorted-delegates/79902080/

Keane Schwarz is certain he knows the outcome of the vote in his precinct: He was the lone caucusgoer in Woodbury County No. 43.
But the Iowa Democratic Party's final results state that Hillary Clinton won one county delegate and Bernie Sanders received zero.
"I voted for Bernie," Schwarz, 36, of Oto, told The Des Moines Register. “It was really suspicious … I’m actually pretty irate about it.”
It's possible that she marked the wrong box.

Democrat party voters are not the brightest.
 

moreluck

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Our system is so screwed up ! On today's news they were talking about delegates. I've watched the results for Iowa and N.H.
These are the number of committed delegates......Hilary 352....Sanders 8. We all saw Sanders roll over Hilary in N.H.
I don't know why we don't go by popular vote alone. This delegate thing is ridiculous and no one ever starts the process to change this, 'cept at election time every 4 years.
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Our system is so screwed up ! On today's news they were talking about delegates. I've watched the results for Iowa and N.H.
These are the number of committed delegates......Hilary 352....Sanders 8. We all saw Sanders roll over Hilary in N.H.
I don't know why we don't go by popular vote alone. This delegate thing is ridiculous and no one ever starts the process to change this, 'cept at election time every 4 years.
Don't you just find it ironic that Bernie won 1 state and barely lost 1 state, yet Hillary has like 97% of the delegates?

How dare Hillary get what Bernie has worked so hard for.

I guess you would call that Democratic Socialism.
 

wkmac

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Our system is so screwed up ! On today's news they were talking about delegates. I've watched the results for Iowa and N.H.
These are the number of committed delegates......Hilary 352....Sanders 8. We all saw Sanders roll over Hilary in N.H.
I don't know why we don't go by popular vote alone. This delegate thing is ridiculous and no one ever starts the process to change this, 'cept at election time every 4 years.

Aside from the fact I agree the system is screwed up and likely for many more reasons beyond yours but where did you get those delegate numbers? Are you speaking of the Super Delegates in the numbers above? The delegates awarded via the actual processes in both Iowa and NH from what I can see stand at 36 for Sanders and 32 for Clinton but add in the Superdelegates and the number swing overwhelming for Clinton at this point. Another reason IMO, other than the public perception issue, that Clinton isn't sweating to much about Sanders. The upcoming primaries and Super Tuesday seem to far more favor Clinton than Sanders but we'll see.
 
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