Enough is enough

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Ron Carey lives on, Aug 27, 2014.

  1. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    We have to put aside our differences to elect a new Executive Board in 2016. Whether you are a tdu member or old guard, if you want change its going to take a unity slate. The Ups contract debacle has to motivate you. Im not telling anybody to join tdu, or to rely on teamster magazine for your information. Just read your concessionary contract. 4 years to top out. Utility drivers' restrictions on filing 9.5's. Extending peak til Jan 21. A lesser healthcare plan for 180,000 teamsters. A raise that doesn't even cover your geographic cost of living. This is a fact, we had no right to strike during negotiations. The proper paperwork was not filed. Does this sound like a contract, with a company thriving like ups. This wasn't a Ford or GM contract, THIS WAS UPS AND YOU WERE SOLD A LEMON. We had the leverage and blew it for 5 years. Its time for a stronger small parcel division and GEB. Put aside your hate for tdu or old guard and think about your future as Ups teamsters. We need delegates in 2015 ready to take on the Hoffa/hall machine

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  2. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    One more thing, UPS doesn't understand anything but aggressive negotiations. It will take all of us

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  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Which part of "Hoffa is not running again" do you guys not understand? He is done after his present term.
     
  4. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    hall is any better?

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  5. He can take his sidekick hall ,with him.
     
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  6. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    I predict most won't even vote.
     
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  7. Ouch

    Ouch Well-Known Member

    Sad but probably true.
     
  8. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny


    EXACTLY what happens with all voting. It's easier for the majority to complain then to get off their asses. I do complain. I also vote each time I can. It is my right. I will use it.
     
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  9. Yawn
     
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  10. Hawfuh Sux

    Hawfuh Sux Old Guard Assassin!

    hall will not win because Rome A has made it clear that if he's Hoffa's replacement he will run for General President of Teamsters as well and the Western Conference will jump on his bandwagon after the disaster this contract turned out to be.
     
  11. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    I'm sorry you're not happy with still not paying for insurance premiums out of your pocket. I'm sorry you're not happy with the new 9.5 language that is better than last contract. I'm sorry you are getting raises last contract and this contract, every year.
     
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  12. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    If the majority is represented by the new users against the contract that are vocal on this forum, it can't be that many people that are unhappy.
     
  13. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    Here we go. A divided union is a weak union. Get over it all, and concentrate the best contract for the people that make UPS such a successful company. Bo, this is not about TDU advancement. This is about UPS Teamsters setting the standard for a strong contract, like we did in 97 united.

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  14. The Milkman

    The Milkman Well-Known Member

    I am unhappy as a retiree who got the shaft..............at least in my local
     
  15. And I a :censored2: furious,as an Impasse,local!
     
  16. Big Bad Wolf

    Big Bad Wolf Active Member

    Can everyone reread the very first line of the OP's opening sentence? Analyze that for a minute.


    Where are you pigs now?
     
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  17. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Mama always said when handed lemons....
     
  18. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    I read the first two sentences and I got "Everyone needs to get along and vote for one slate and if it contains anyone currently in office it's not the right one"

    Doesn't sound very democratic when someone says "we need to put aside our differences". Isn't that what makes America and the whole democratic system great, to improve our direction that the majority feels we need to go in?
     
  19. Big Bad Wolf

    Big Bad Wolf Active Member

    Yes! "We need to put aside our differences." = "You need to put your differences aside to vote for who I want you to."
    Why doesn't the OP put his differences aside to rally around hall?


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  20. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

    What exactly do you mean by the statement " Extending peak til Jan 21 "