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No It's not green grocer!
You are kidding us right?
NOPE
You are kidding us right?
In my local 22.3 don't load package cars PT'ers due. However we have one building that is one of two in the coutry that has a 8 hr shift of loaders that get payed full timer driver rate.
You are kidding us right?
This post smells a little fishy.
1. You worked as a preloader and 22.3 for 20 years I want to know how you got the 22.3 job without driving? The progression for Union people go PT, FT Driver, than feeder or 22.3 jobs .
What are you doing loading package cars again?
2. With 20 years of service you should know how the system works becasue with that much time you must have been written up and threaten with suspension and termination more than once.
3. You got a suspension letter in the mail but where never verbaly warned or written up with a steward witnessing it? Better yet told that your where getting suspended.
4. Article 22.3 jobs have not been around for ever (meaning they use to be full paying jobs.)
Have you heard of firings and or suspensions for misloads by preloaders. I've worked as a preloader and 22.3 for 20 years just got a suspension letter for misloads over half of them were never brought to my attention.
The answer to your question is YES, there have been many suspensions served in our local due to misloads. I would suggest you take more time and make sure your accuracy is first, speed second!!
How can your local allow any discipline for misloads? There is no standard in place, nothing explaining whats fair. We have had 3 terminations for missorts with all 3 being put back by the arbitrator with FULL BACK PAY!NOPE
It doesn't matter if he RTS'd it. It was sent out and returned. The company has proof of the attempt. It will go on file and it can and will be used against him if the company decides to.In my center our sup comes around and makes you sign a peice of paper that shows the misload. One guy told me that after so many, UPS will mail you a letter(intent to suspend) from the USPS and he said you have to sign for it. He told me he just RTS the first time and doesnt answer the door now it and they never suspended him.......Dont know if its true though.
How can your local allow any discipline for misloads? There is no standard in place, nothing explaining whats fair. We have had 3 terminations for missorts with all 3 being put back by the arbitrator with FULL BACK PAY!
Your local might need to get their head out of their asses.IMO
In my center our sup comes around and makes you sign a peice of paper that shows the misload. One guy told me that after so many, UPS will mail you a letter(intent to suspend) from the USPS and he said you have to sign for it. He told me he just RTS the first time and doesnt answer the door now it and they never suspended him.......Dont know if its true though.
I really don't know the answer to your question, but my guess would be they won't fire you for misloads. How about this solution to your problem? Why don't you just don't misload any more? I understand people make mistakes, but 6/day every day?? I get 1-2 misloads a day, EVERY day. At this level its not a case of human error, its just pure lazyness and not paying attention to detail.
UPS is 50% to blame. They took the "mind" out of it with PAS. "Now we can get anybody off of the street and have them on a pull the next day". How is that working out for you UPS? Probably about the same as that "hopey changey thing" is working out for the American people with Obama.
Before PAS I would get about 1 misload a week because the preloader knew the addresses and actually had to think which car it went on. Now, they just look at the PAL and put it where it says. Problem is, they're walking into the wrong car 6 times a day. Also, now because of PAS I have brilliant preloaders that will put a zone of 25 packages on the shelf and then throw 30 house-calls on the floor because he has no room left on the shelf in which he put 25 package for one stop????
How does this company make any money? They are so tight when it comes to labor on the preload. Once the drivers get on the belt, the preloaders are cut loose. Why not keep the preloaders there at 9.50/hour to get the driver out quicker? The driver is making $44/ hour to do a job that can be completed by someone making $9.50/hour just so the preload can make its numbers.
They push and push production on the preload. My question becomes: WHY? UPS is getting its labor for as close to minimum wage and slave status as pratically possible. Why not push service?
Why not? Let's slow the preload down a notch. Let's start them a few minutes early and push service. If you think about it, 1 driver taking 30 minutes to deliver 1 misload costs about 2 hours+ in preload labor. Why look to cut minutes on the preload?
If it were my business it would be the driver labor force in which I would "pinch minutes" .
If we slow them down and they are still misloading then I would go back to cracking the whip and look for another solution to the misload problem.
These are my thought at least...
In my center our sup comes around and makes you sign a peice of paper that shows the misload. One guy told me that after so many, UPS will mail you a letter(intent to suspend) from the USPS and he said you have to sign for it. He told me he just RTS the first time and doesnt answer the door now it and they never suspended him.......Dont know if its true though.