iruhnman630
Well-Known Member
What do you want to see presented to you for a contract proposal to earn your 'yes' vote?
What do you want to see presented to you for a contract proposal to earn your 'yes' vote?
What do you want to see presented to you for a contract proposal to earn your 'yes' vote?
What do you want to see presented to you for a contract proposal to earn your 'yes' vote?
Pretty much status quo. Keep all benefits as is. Part time start pay bumped to $10 and inflation raises for full timers. Aka around $1 an hour per year.
That's it. They have my vote with that.
Considering the fact that every contract gets worse, I don't think we can get worse than what we have now. If the union actually succeeds in extending the crap of a contract we currently have, with the vague language and even the crappy split raises we got the past 6 years; I would probably call it a victory.
That's how apathetic I feel about hall and Hoffa. Especially after hall ate every word he said at every rally. Pretty pathetic that out of 235,000 teamsters we barely collected over 50,000 signatures for the "fair contract" petition. This clearly shows how lazy the majority of our overpaid fat business agents and organizers are.
Why is the bumping up of part time starting wages such an issue? Please explain this to me!
A "YES" vote is simple. First, for full timers, UPS must maintain our health care benefits as they are today. No changes. IF the company was in the red quarter after quarter, then we would be having a different conversation. Next, as for full time wages, I say a five year contract is worth 1.85 cents an hour spread over 5 years, then after that, a $2000.00 bonus for every full timer in lieu of future wage increases. ( a cap on full time at 35.00 an hour straight time) Next, less SUREPOST pkgs leaving the system. Every 250 pieces sent to the postal service is ONE PACKAGE CAR removed from service. Its simple math. Next, restrictions on the use of technological equiptment for discipline. So far, the programs UPS implemented have been used for DISCIPLINE and NOT for safety despite being sold that way to us in 2008. Next, NO more vague language about 9.5 hours. Specific requirements that UPS must meet in order to reduce excessive overtime. Merely sending a case to panels or arbitrations that take months doesn't solve the problem and UPS is gladly paying the penalty vs. actually cutting hours. Next, Specific language about bidding for package routes, elimination of routes, bid looping, and senior driver protections in a loop. Next, an elimination of hourly personnel doing management work in safety IE observations and reports being filled out. The last idiot in my center to do one pi$$ed me off and I filed a charge against him with our local executive officers for violating our bylaws. That same day after being served with notice, he took his pkg car out and got into an accident on route. Management work is NOT to be done by hourlies. Next, inflationary increases to health and welfare programs ( pensions and such) Next, increasing part time minimum wages to 10 bucks and giving back the dollar skill rate. Wages for part time should be capped by classification. A reduction in seniority time for part timers from 36 months back to 24 months. THIS was a MAJOR concession to the company in the last contract despite SOBERS claim that it was better. All other issues are minor and settled already. Supplementals and riders can be negotiated by the locals. FOR ME, so far, its a NO VOTE for the current proposals being discussed. ITs a NO BRAINER.
Why is the bumping up of part time starting wages such an issue? Please explain this to me!
Gobble this. Its not always about the part timers. Go full time if you can if you cant then your .... Out of luck
Gobble this. Its not always about the part timers. Go full time if you can if you cant then your .... Out of luck
Iguess I was just wondering because like all the other people in the last 30 yrs I started at this wage. My incentive for sticking around was the health insurance and 32 dollars an hour. The high turnover rate for partimers helps the company save money on insurance. I dont know I kinda look at as weeding people out. The people that stay and bust their ass are the ones who should be rewarded. Idk just my opinionI hope your joking. If not its because in the last 30 years or so part time starting wage has increased a total of 50 cents per hour. Now many states minimum wage is more than ups starting wage.
Iguess I was just wondering because like all the other people in the last 30 yrs I started at this wage. My incentive for sticking around was the health insurance and 32 dollars an hour. The high turnover rate for partimers helps the company save money on insurance. I dont know I kinda look at as weeding people out. The people that stay and bust their ass are the ones who should be rewarded. Idk just my opinion