Has our union proven themselves useless at this point?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by muthatrucka, Dec 6, 2014.

  1. muthatrucka

    muthatrucka Member

    I'm not anti Union by any means but from mismanaging our pensions to the decline of our healthcare coverage hasn't our union proven themselves to be more trouble than they are worth? I (almost)trust the company more at this point. Our last contract was pushed through under very odd circumstances and it seems that this company simply does what it likes anyway. Every time my family or I go to the doc I have to call and fight teamsters health and welfare to over the charges. They have burned one to many bridges with me. Time for change.
     
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  2. Amen!
     
  3. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    I am not a big fan of our current teamster leadership, but if you can show me a similar job with our pay, our healthcare and our pension, I will be totally shocked.
     
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  4. sailfish

    sailfish Having way too much fun.

    All I can say is that there's definitely gonna be some union people without jobs come next election.
     
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  5. muthatrucka

    muthatrucka Member

    Good pay is all we have left.
     
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  6. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    You must have been sold out to teamcare. I am sorry that happened to you brother. I voted no because of teamcare. We got the west coast/177 hc plan. It's not bad, better than most peoples health insurance plans.
     
  7. rorojo

    rorojo Member

    Ask your friends how good their insurance is. I'll guarantee its not as good as ours. while your at it ask them if they get raises every year. The Union fought for that. Its our union go to the meetings if you aren't satisfied. The last meeting I went to only three other people showed, so who's to blame. If it was up to management we would make way less.
     
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  8. Crazy Diamond

    Crazy Diamond Robot Extraordinaire

    Scabs gonna scab.
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  9. People like you make me want to puke.
     
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  10. Crazy Diamond

    Crazy Diamond Robot Extraordinaire

    fixed it for you


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  11. Either or. I can't believe the entitlement of upsers.
     
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  12. Crazy Diamond

    Crazy Diamond Robot Extraordinaire

    I'll share with you( and everyone else) a personal story...

    My dad had his second bout with congestive heart failure in August. He stayed in the hospital for two weeks. The bill was $87k. After the Medicare adjustment, it was close to $6k. He's responsible for 20%.

    He said to me, "Ya know, if I didn't have insurance, they'd want every penny of that $87k."

    There's a lot of spoiled folks within our ranks. They'll "rah rah, sis boom bah, go Teamsters!" all day long.

    But when the union needs them to step up and make a co-pay or a deductible, they suddenly can't see past their own backyard.

    It's all about them. The Team comes second.


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  13. That's the mentality of so many upsers. We make ten dollars more an hour than anyone in the industry and our medical is the best in the industry. That said most of thes said people just don't actually get what we have and how much better it is than everyone else.
     
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  14. muthatrucka

    muthatrucka Member

    Family first then a huge drop off then my hobbies then my 60 hrs a week in the clown suit.
     
  15. muthatrucka

    muthatrucka Member

    I was part time for 10 years. I get it. I fought for it. This isn't the dream I went on strike for. Which reminds me where's that strike fund money we pay every month?
     
  16. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    I already came to that conclusion the yr Hoffa became president of the union. Concession for hire
     
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  17. Crazy Diamond

    Crazy Diamond Robot Extraordinaire

    Much has changed in nearly two decades, no?

    Surely you know someone, nay, many who, pay for inferior benefits on a salary significantly inferior to ours.

    Do you believe that's possible without our union, "brother"?


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  18. WESLA

    WESLA It is what it is

    Thanks for the insight Barack
     
  19. first lady hh 3

    first lady hh 3 Smalls n everything else!

    That's what I'm looking at! No, no, absolutely no! I have wor
     
  20. first lady hh 3

    first lady hh 3 Smalls n everything else!

    K, kids...here goes..
    705'rs all got all the info & N a ballot also had the opportunity to ask n pose questions to the newest TEAMCARE.

    HOWEVER, RE: pay increase for new hires to $10, complete w/ q