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I'm sick and tired of you Drivers
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Nimnim
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I'm actually going to agree with Upstate here, and while I've not worked preload myself I can see that number as attainable; however, if volume, flow, and other variables make it impossible it's not the loaders fault. We should strive to do our best to service the customer, and we as hourlies should be doing our best to ensure it happens. Still doesn't mean supervisors should be doing our work, but realistic goals should be set for us by them.
When they come up with these pph numbers that they want, do they account for moving pallets out of the way and moving the extendo and waiting for trucks to pull up and dealing with irregs? Also moving the load stand all over the truck adds a lot of time. If all packages were 10x10x10 and all weighed 5 pounds and were loaded in perfect walls that were no taller than your head, we would all be able to meet they're numbers all the time. But that's just not reality.
On the flip side, I think it is fair for management to expect more from their workers. I just think they need to focus more on how to improve productivity in a less threatening manner. (However, I've never felt harassed about production but I'm sure it will happen eventually based on what I've read on here). The training programs I've seen them do here are not very good. I know that when I was moved from small sort to unload, I was just thrown in a trailer and told "labels up". The "training sups" that I've seen here pretty much just sit at the end of the trailer filling out paperwork or texting. Friday night, one of them let 2 hazmats (with no sigs from hazmat guy) down the belt.
On the flip side, I think it is fair for management to expect more from their workers. I just think they need to focus more on how to improve productivity in a less threatening manner. (However, I've never felt harassed about production but I'm sure it will happen eventually based on what I've read on here). The training programs I've seen them do here are not very good. I know that when I was moved from small sort to unload, I was just thrown in a trailer and told "labels up". The "training sups" that I've seen here pretty much just sit at the end of the trailer filling out paperwork or texting. Friday night, one of them let 2 hazmats (with no sigs from hazmat guy) down the belt.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
The preload "UPS" requested number in our building is 230 an hour. That is 10 more than last year (how do they figure THAT if nothing has changed? lol) Anyhow, do you think 300 something is attainable if UPS!! thinks 230 is a standard? It is not and not even close by a wide margin.
UnconTROLLed
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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The discussion was about loading an empty trailer, not a package car(s), which is why I said that 1 pkg every 10 seconds is a steady work pace.
hellfire
no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG
thats actually pretty funny
tieguy
Banned
wonderful rhetoric. Problem is I gave you a divison manger who got out from behind his desk and demonstrated what he wanted in a less then perfect world scenario. Watching him do snowmen for four hours does not sound appealing.
grgrcr88
No It's not green grocer!
Personally, I think you should go ahead and load all day every day. Nothing better than getting those grievance checks in the mail!! Have I ever mentioned I get double pay for every second a sup works and I file on it. I could make a living off you. Keep up the good work Edman!! Your my favorite kind of Sup.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
I didn't respond to your post, I responded to NimNim who said preload. Since you have never worked inside UPS, it's of no use discussing it with you.
fethrs
Well-Known Member
After asking about certain tests and advice about becoming a pt sup you finally made it, now it looks like it may be more than you bargained for.
You may be sick and tired of the drivers but just wait until something goes wrong and you hear from your sup and managers.
Nice catch, I so totally missed this. Call off the dogs!!!!
TheDick
Well-Known Member
Its funny that other mgmnt would defend the PT's because when the higher ups come to visit they look at PT's ,well they act as if they dont even exist. So i see the PT's as pre-loaders who get to walk around all night and "demonstrate" proper loading mewthods. I pity the PT's. But yeah you handling pkgs doesnt help your numbers, your padding them. Doesnt help the sort in the long run
stevetheupsguy
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You must mean the birthday TROLL.
