Immigration

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Babagounj

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[h=1]Study: Second generation immigrants commit more crimes than their parents[/h]
A recent Pew study found that the crime rate among second generation immigrants is significantly higher than the rate amongst first generation immigrants, even during turbulent teen years.
The survey concluded that 25 percent of second generation 16-year-olds were caught committing a crime within the last year, while only 17 percent of recent immigrants were guilty of criminal activity during the same time period.
As first generation and second generation immigrants reach their mid-twenties, the crime rate gap between the two groups begins to close..
One explanation behind these findings, says the Center for Immigration Studies’ Jessica Vaughan, is that many children of immigrants live in environments that are highly susceptible to crime. This exposure makes second generation Americans more likely to get involved in risky or illegal activities.
“It is 23 percent more likely that a young immigrant or a son of an immigrant is going to join a gang if there is a gang in the neighborhood,” .
“We must not hesitate to use immigration enforcement to remove those immigrants who are committing crimes,” she continued, because it is “important that we do not allow them to stay here and degrade life within immigrant communities and contribute to the delinquency of others.”
“Criminal immigrants are the first priority for immigration enforcement and are flushed out of the system as soon as they are convicted of a crime… That tends to suppress the numbers of new immigrants who commit crimes within the larger population.”
“We need to be very careful about who we are admitting as immigrants,” she concluded.
 

DriveInDriveOut

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Study: Second generation immigrants commit more crimes than their parents


A recent Pew study found that the crime rate among second generation immigrants is significantly higher than the rate amongst first generation immigrants, even during turbulent teen years.
The survey concluded that 25 percent of second generation 16-year-olds were caught committing a crime within the last year, while only 17 percent of recent immigrants were guilty of criminal activity during the same time period.
As first generation and second generation immigrants reach their mid-twenties, the crime rate gap between the two groups begins to close..
One explanation behind these findings, says the Center for Immigration Studies’ Jessica Vaughan, is that many children of immigrants live in environments that are highly susceptible to crime. This exposure makes second generation Americans more likely to get involved in risky or illegal activities.
“It is 23 percent more likely that a young immigrant or a son of an immigrant is going to join a gang if there is a gang in the neighborhood,” .
“We must not hesitate to use immigration enforcement to remove those immigrants who are committing crimes,” she continued, because it is “important that we do not allow them to stay here and degrade life within immigrant communities and contribute to the delinquency of others.”
“Criminal immigrants are the first priority for immigration enforcement and are flushed out of the system as soon as they are convicted of a crime… That tends to suppress the numbers of new immigrants who commit crimes within the larger population.”
“We need to be very careful about who we are admitting as immigrants,” she concluded.
Follow the source and draw your own conclusions.

But just a generation later, the crime rate soars. In fact, it is virtually identical to the rate among native-born Americans across the most crime-prone years. As the accompanying chart taken from an earlier Bersani study shows, about a quarter of 16-year-old native-born and second-generation immigrants have committed a crime in the past year. In contrast, about 17% of the foreign-born 16-year olds have broken the law.

“Second generation immigrants appear to be catching-up to and resemble the typical native-born (white) population, at least in regard to their offending profile,” she wrote. These findings “suggest that the children of immigrants seemingly fall prey to criminogenic influences in similar ways that native-born youth do.”
 

moreluck

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In the midst of the numerous scandals of the Obama administration, this one is often overlooked, yet easily proven.

Chris Crane, president of the ICE Council, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents’ union, said that the President has effectively told ICE agents that they can no longer enforce the law, even as that applies to illegal aliens who have committed other crimes. He noted that while there has been investigation of the scandals of the IRS and Benghazi, “there has been no investigation into the President’s lawless activities with regard to immigration enforcement”.

“You can be in the country illegally, you can have an extensive criminal history, you can have multiple criminal convictions for serious offenses, and there is nothing that we can do to touch you,” Crane said.

He pointed out that the numbers from the administration seeming to indicate “record deportations” were in fact falsely inflated. The numbers included mostly illegal aliens caught at the border, into the numbers of those deported from the interior, thereby juicing the numbers. Nothing the President says matches what he has been done, says Crane.

The ICE union has repeatedly asked for a meeting at the White House. But despite meeting with all manner of other groups on the issue, including illegal alien groups, the President has still refused to meet with the ICE union.
‘We are completely ignored,” Crane said, ‘The President will not respond to us…He gave some speeches where he called ICE agents “terrorists”. He said we went into neighborhoods and terrorized children, babies, nursing mothers, purposely tore apart families. So this President, I think, brings with him a real dislike, at the very least, for ICE agents and officers, and the mission we perform. I think there’s a real misunderstanding about what we do, and for that reason he has absolutely refused to let us be a part of any conversation.”

It seems farcical at the very least, not to include the people tasked with enforcement, in discussions of immigration enforcement. That is, if you intend to have any enforcement.

The President cannot achieve the immigration “reform” he wants (translate: fling open the doors) legally through passing a law. So therefore, he simply orders the laws on the books to be ignored. How offensive is it to have a president attacking law enforcement officials in this manner? Obama seems to brand ICE agents in the same way he brands anyone opposing or questioning something he wants. It is the same Alinsky personalizing and demonizing tactic that he employs against Republicans calling them “extremists” and “hostage takers”.

Why there has not been more said on this flouting of the law is astounding. Yet this is a complete violation of this President’s oath to uphold the Constitution and the laws of this land. This puts our security in incredible danger and continues to leave dangerous criminals roaming our streets.
 

DriveInDriveOut

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The President cannot achieve the immigration “reform” he wants (translate: fling open the doors) legally through passing a law
What doors? What doors have we ever had in this country to prohibit immigration? By your standards my ancestors never would have been allowed to come to this country..... Did your family come here on the damn santa maria or something.... where do you get off judging people who want to be a part of one of the greatest countries in the world?

Once the economy gets better, all this immigration paranoia will go back to the dark racist closet it belongs in.
Maybe not for MoreLuck though... I'd probably be pissed off all the time too if I lived in the People's Republic of California.
 

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In the midst of the numerous scandals of the Obama administration, this one is often overlooked, yet easily proven.

Chris Crane, president of the ICE Council, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents’ union, said that the President has effectively told ICE agents that they can no longer enforce the law, even as that applies to illegal aliens who have committed other crimes. He noted that while there has been investigation of the scandals of the IRS and Benghazi, “there has been no investigation into the President’s lawless activities with regard to immigration enforcement”.

“You can be in the country illegally, you can have an extensive criminal history, you can have multiple criminal convictions for serious offenses, and there is nothing that we can do to touch you,” Crane said.

He pointed out that the numbers from the administration seeming to indicate “record deportations” were in fact falsely inflated. The numbers included mostly illegal aliens caught at the border, into the numbers of those deported from the interior, thereby juicing the numbers. Nothing the President says matches what he has been done, says Crane.

The ICE union has repeatedly asked for a meeting at the White House. But despite meeting with all manner of other groups on the issue, including illegal alien groups, the President has still refused to meet with the ICE union.
‘We are completely ignored,” Crane said, ‘The President will not respond to us…He gave some speeches where he called ICE agents “terrorists”. He said we went into neighborhoods and terrorized children, babies, nursing mothers, purposely tore apart families. So this President, I think, brings with him a real dislike, at the very least, for ICE agents and officers, and the mission we perform. I think there’s a real misunderstanding about what we do, and for that reason he has absolutely refused to let us be a part of any conversation.”

It seems farcical at the very least, not to include the people tasked with enforcement, in discussions of immigration enforcement. That is, if you intend to have any enforcement.

The President cannot achieve the immigration “reform” he wants (translate: fling open the doors) legally through passing a law. So therefore, he simply orders the laws on the books to be ignored. How offensive is it to have a president attacking law enforcement officials in this manner? Obama seems to brand ICE agents in the same way he brands anyone opposing or questioning something he wants. It is the same Alinsky personalizing and demonizing tactic that he employs against Republicans calling them “extremists” and “hostage takers”.

Why there has not been more said on this flouting of the law is astounding. Yet this is a complete violation of this President’s oath to uphold the Constitution and the laws of this land. This puts our security in incredible danger and continues to leave dangerous criminals roaming our streets.

You are clueless.

Obama is deporting immigrants faster than Bush. Republicans don’t think that’s enough.
 

roadrunner2012

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David Leopold: Reminding Christopher Crane That He Is President of the ICE Union, Not the United States

Crane is either intentionally trying to mislead the public or he hasn't bothered to read the Deferred Action guidance posted on ICE's website. It squarely puts the burden on the alien applicant to prove he or she qualifies:


Only those individuals who can prove through verifiable documentation that they meet these criteria will be eligible for deferred action. Individuals will not be eligible if they are not currently in the United States and cannot prove that they have been physically present in the United States for a continuous period of not less than five years immediately preceding today's date. The use of prosecutorial discretion confers no substantive right or pathway to citizenship. Only the Congress, acting through its legislative authority, can confer these rights.
 

moreluck

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Since his decree in August.......(too recent for you?) He has told ICE what to do. It doesn't matter what he's done....what is he doing right now? He's telling ICE not to deport and that is breaking the law.
I posted the relevant stuff in the guns forum because that's where it came up. You can check it out or keep that bag over your head and those ear buds in your ears.
 

roadrunner2012

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New Obama Immigration Directive Eases Deportations Of Parents | ThinkProgress

The Obama administration received similar criticism when it circulated a 2011 memo advising federal immigration law enforcement officials to prioritize criminal immigrants for deportation proceedings. Still, in the months that followed, the government deported numerous low-priority undocumented parents. Between 2010 to 2012, a record-breaking 205,000 parents of U.S. citizen children were deported.

Friday’s directive, however, could help the thousands of children of undocumented immigrants who are in adult detention facilities while their parents undergo deportation proceedings.


 

moreluck

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Of course, because those are potential Dem voters.

Via Washington Times:
U.S. authorities deported fewer immigrants in fiscal year 2013 than at any time since President Obama took office, according to secret numbers obtained by the Center for Immigration Studies which suggest Mr. Obama’s non-deportation policies have hindered removals of illegal immigrants.

Just 364,700 immigrants were removed in fiscal year 2013, according to internal numbers from U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement that CIS released Wednesday — down 11 percent from the nearly 410,000 who were deported in 2012.

The administration has testified to Congress that it has enough money to deport 400,000 every year, but Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies at CIS, said Mr. Obama and the Homeland Security Department have placed so many illegal immigrants off-limits for deportations that they cannot find enough people to fulfill that quota.
 
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