realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
There was no ISIS before a Democrat became president either.
Where are you going with this?
ISIS aka The Islamic State
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Where are you going with this?
Brown echo
If u are not alive than for sure truth is not real
You should rethink that when you are so dedicate to hate something.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Is there a point you are trying to make, or are you just being an arse?
Brown echo
If u are not alive than for sure truth is not real
Brown echo
If u are not alive than for sure truth is not real
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
I Am Jacks Damaged Box
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wkmac
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Same as you but far more intelligently!
av8torntn
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There wouldn't have been an ISIS in Iraq if Obama and Clinton hadn't waged war to topple the government in Libya either.
It is just a guess but it seems much more likely that since there wasn't ISIS in Iraq when Saddam was gone but there was an ISIS in Iraq after Obama/Clinton toppled they Libyan government that would be the cause.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
So who were we fighting before ISIS? Honestly, what's in a name?
It's the Bushes' fault but it's not like it matters at this point. Now, the truth is that if we left the region, they would end of fighting themselves. ISIS is only held together by their common goal to kill the foreigners occupying their land.
av8torntn
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DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Americans dying for nothing. Not to mention the thing that really matters most, the money.
ImWaitingForTheDay
Annoy a conservative....Think for yourself
ISIS is made up of and led by many the Iraqi military personnel that GW's Coalition Provisional Authority, Paul Bremer, fired. They had extensive combat experience and training and are now using those skills to dismantle Syria and Iraq. These guys left their good paying jobs carrying their weapons and no employment opportunities. Surprise!!! They're pissed and fighting back...
Thanks Clinton, Obama!!!
av8torntn
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Iraq was a socialist country so everyone essentially worked for the government in some capacity.
Very desperate on your part to try and blame Bush.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Some people need to be reminded because they didn't learn anything from the huge friend up the first time around.
ImWaitingForTheDay
Annoy a conservative....Think for yourself
Gee - and here I thought the withdrawal from Iraq was started by Bush due to the fact that the SOFA agreement was not going to be renewed...
The lives wasted in Iraq were due to a completely unnecessary war that was started by lying to Congress by rewriting critical parts of the National Intelligence Estimate, then prosecuting a war that ignored almost all the advice of the generals and senior officers. A war, incidentally, that created a terrorist group - al Quada In Iraq that hadn't previously existed before the invasion, and one that spawned ISIL. Bush let 911 happen
Bush let OBL escape
Bush used 911 to go into Iraq
Bush caused the resulting deaths of nearly 5,000 Americans due to that war
Bush stuck the taxpayer with a 6 trillion dollar war bill from that war
Bush allowed ISIL into Iraq because of that war....Digest that av
ImWaitingForTheDay
Annoy a conservative....Think for yourself
av8torntn
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I'm not calling you dumb as I don't know you but that is a dumb statement.
War creates a terrorist group the same way that food creates fat people, guns kill people, and welfare helps people.
Bush let 911 happen is as stupid as those that claim that 6 years into a new Presidency the bad economy is the last guys fault.
Bush let OBL escape and not Clinton? That is an interestingly ignorant argument to make but go ahead if you want.
Bush caused the deaths of 5,000 Americans is well even you probably get it by now. Bush didn't cause the death of 5,000 Americans any more than automobiles caused the deaths of 5,000,000 Americans.
I realize that you are unfamiliar with our form of government but Congress spends money.
ISIL was not in Iraq when Bush was president. I realize that may be shocking to you but most of the leadership was in military prisons when Bush was president.
Where did Bush lie about Iraq?
On to your most interesting and false argument. The "status of forces agreement agreement" argument. We will never really know exactly went down but we do know a few things. The first is that the Bush status of forces agreement was intended to be re negotiated by the next President. This is a major reason why Maliki tried, at least publicly, to negotiate one. We also know that Obama has taken credit for ending the Iraq war. We also have news reports that claim Obama wanted to leave 2000 troops behind and that this small number wasn't worth the political risk to Maliki. We also know that Bush on many occasions warned against an early withdrawal from Iraq. When you put all of this together there is no logical way to reach the conclusion that Bush withdrew from Iraq as you claimed.