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dmac1

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400 miles of new wall, tax breaks for working Americans, criminal sentencing reform, enterprise zones in minority neighborhoods, Middle East peace deals, recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital, wiped out ISIS, made our allies pay their fair share of their defense, made China spend more on American products to better the trade imbalance, signed new trade accords that made our trade with Mexico and Canada more equitable, repealed redundant regulations that hurt business, lowered corporate taxes that increased business investment and resulted in record low unemployment for minorities and women. If the virus hadn't happened he'd have been reelected unless of course the fix was still in, and likely would have been.
There was NOT 400 miles of new wall. Almost all of it was replacement wall for deteriorated or damaged wall. Get your facts straight. Having your facts wrongs makes your whole post meaningless. And giving Syria to Russia is NOT any type of victory in the middle east, and there was no war between the UAE and Israel, so he didn't 'make peace' in the middle east. You have swallowed whole every bit of propaganda you were fed!!!!!!! I am amazed you can even work the keyboard to prove how gullible you are. You probably think you got a tax cut too, while owing more than ever on your share of the debt, with interest added!!!!!
 

vantexan

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Wall...Most of those 400 miles were upgrades to existing walls.... And Mexico isn't paying for it.
Tax cuts ..Paid for with record federal borrowing
Wiped out ISIS.. If we wiped them out then why are we negotiating with their proxy the Taliban in a effort to find a way out? PS The Kurds
did most of the fighting against ISIS. And look at the thanks they got from Dear Leader

Middle East Peace Accord The Palestinians don't even recognize it because they weren't even brought into the negotiations . The so called
settlement is a sham that Kushner and Netanyahu (under indictment) both Jews put together themselves.

China Trade Deal... You obviously haven't looked at the numbers lately have you?

Lowered Corporate Taxes. The result? Record stock buybacks, little else and offset with what? More federal borrowing.

Mexico Canada Trade Deal...The tariffs can be easily bypassed and who's going to make Mexico and Canada compliant?

Jerusalem How many Muslim countries recognize it?

Oh, you've no doubt believed everything Fox News wants you to believe.
Nope, 400 miles of new wall have gone up. The Taliban are in Afghanistan, nothing to do with ISIS. I could go on line by line. Tell me if you want me to. I'm kind of stunned that someone who talks so much is so ignorant.
 

dmac1

Well-Known Member
What you just wrote is such B.S. on so many levels it's a wonder you bothered. And here's some enlightenment. Corporations send in tax money, but they don't actually pay it. Consumers pay the tax in increased costs for good and services. Buy a clue.
You got one thing right- consumers are paying more for taxes on Chinese imports. First thing you ever got right.

And how much higher is GDP growth in Trump's term vs under Obama once the Great Bush Recession ended??????

How much lower do you the the debt and deficit are under Trump????

And I guess FOX didn't show you the videos of kids literally in cages. Trump says it was okay to put them in the cages because it wasn't his administration that built them, so blame Obama.

And tell us all how many more people have health insurance under Trump.
 

bacha29

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Nope, 400 miles of new wall have gone up. The Taliban are in Afghanistan, nothing to do with ISIS. I could go on line by line. Tell me if you want me to. I'm kind of stunned that someone who talks so much is so ignorant.
Leaders of both ISIS and the Taliban have made it clear that their plans are to consolidate their power once the Americans are gone. And that is why US military officials are opposed to Trump's plan to pull all US assets out of the country.

It's like Vietnam When the US leaves Afghan government forces will dissolve quickly. But Carlson and Hannity don't want you to know that.
 

vantexan

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You got one thing right- consumers are paying more for taxes on Chinese imports. First thing you ever got right.

And how much higher is GDP growth in Trump's term vs under Obama once the Great Bush Recession ended??????

How much lower do you the the debt and deficit are under Trump????

And I guess FOX didn't show you the videos of kids literally in cages. Trump says it was okay to put them in the cages because it wasn't his administration that built them, so blame Obama.

And tell us all how many more people have health insurance under Trump.
Plenty of people have insurance under Obamacare. People just aren't being forced to buy it or pay a penalty if they don't. Those videos, pics, etc of kids in cages were from 2014. Obama never hit 3% GDP growth. Only president who didn't.

400 miles of new wall. What it "replaced" was often not much more than chain link fence or strands of bobwire.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Leaders of both ISIS and the Taliban have made it clear that their plans are to consolidate their power once the Americans are gone. And that is why US military officials are opposed to Trump's plan to pull all US assets out of the country.

It's like Vietnam When the US leaves Afghan government forces will dissolve quickly. But Carlson and Hannity don't want you to know that.
And how is Viet Nam doing nowadays?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Leaders of both ISIS and the Taliban have made it clear that their plans are to consolidate their power once the Americans are gone. And that is why US military officials are opposed to Trump's plan to pull all US assets out of the country.

It's like Vietnam When the US leaves Afghan government forces will dissolve quickly. But Carlson and Hannity don't want you to know that.
19 years of war. Very little accomplished except increasing wealth of military-industrial complex. Oh, that's right, Democrats are hawks these days because of campaign contributions.
 

bacha29

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19 years of war. Very little accomplished except increasing wealth of military-industrial complex. Oh, that's right, Democrats are hawks these days because of campaign contributions.
According to Open Secrets.org Defense contractors contributions to political causes and candidates for 2020 totaled $35.3M with 49% going to Democrats and 51% going to Republicans. Bet that's something Carlson, Hannity and Fox and friends didn't want you to know either.
 

vantexan

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According to Open Secrets.org Defense contractors contributions to political causes and candidates for 2020 totaled $35.3M with 49% going to Democrats and 51% going to Republicans. Bet that's something Carlson, Hannity and Fox and friends didn't want you to know either.
And? They spread it around. Did you miss Trump's comment about how enlisted love him but too brass don't because they're in league with the military-industrial complex? Tucker showed that. Tucker actually skewers the right also but the Left does so much that he has little time left over.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Still the same one party socialist state it was when it overrun South Vietnam in 1975.
“Embracing the free market, Vietnam’s economy has gone from one of the worst to one of the hottest in Southeast Asia in the past 20 years.”

How many buildings have they flown plane’s into?
 

bacha29

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“Embracing the free market, Vietnam’s economy has gone from one of the worst to one of the hottest in Southeast Asia in the past 20 years.”

How many buildings have they flown plane’s into?
So what's your point? The one party socialist style government is still the governing legal authority in Vietnam and there's no sign of that ending or undergoing a fundamental change anytime soon. They haven't embraced capitalism. They've simply tolerated a limited amount of it but not enough of it to where it could pose a threat to it's undisputed rule.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
And? They spread it around. Did you miss Trump's comment about how enlisted love him but too brass don't because they're in league with the military-industrial complex? Tucker showed that. Tucker actually skewers the right also but the Left does so much that he has little time left over.
"Enlisted love him" (LMAO) That's Trump caught up in his own self adoration.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
So what's your point? The one party socialist style government is still the governing legal authority in Vietnam and there's no sign of that ending or undergoing a fundamental change anytime soon. They haven't embraced capitalism. They've simply tolerated a limited amount of it but not enough of it to where it could pose a threat to it's undisputed rule.
YOU’RE the one who used Viet Nam as an example of what would happen to Afghanistan if/when US forces leave.

I just pointed out their ‘fate’.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Trump accomplished more in four years than most do in 8. And if he had done that as a Democrat you'd be kissing his feet.
Yes. He effed-up the US more in 4 years than all the other bad presidents combined over 8 terms. Coolidge, Harding, Hoover, and the very worst of all...Donald Jackwad Trumpski. He makes them all look great by comparison.
 

vantexan

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Yes. He effed-up the US more in 4 years than all the other bad presidents combined over 8 terms. Coolidge, Harding, Hoover, and the very worst of all...Donald Jackwad Trumpski. He makes them all look great by comparison.
Wonder why you haven't responded to the past posts I dug up about the FAA bill and the Democrats? Hoping it'll quietly go away?
 
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