Oregon anti government stand off.

[Operational needs]

Freedom cuts both ways. It would seem that their reasoning is quite flawed.

We don't have the FREEDOM to disregard laws we don't like. We do have the freedom to petition that the laws be changed to reflect society.

http://koin.com/2016/01/03/fbi-to-deal-with-militia-group-at-malheur-refuge/

These people are traitors who don't believe in the rule of law. There are people in Gitmo less dangerous than these thugs.

I'll have to read more on it.

 

[oldngray]

Freedom cuts both ways. It would seem that their reasoning is quite flawed.

We don't have the FREEDOM to disregard laws we don't like. We do have the freedom to petition that the laws be changed to reflect society.

http://koin.com/2016/01/03/fbi-to-deal-with-militia-group-at-malheur-refuge/

These people are traitors who don't believe in the rule of law. There are people in Gitmo less dangerous than these thugs.

Agreed. Tell that to Black Lives Matter.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

And you still don't have a clue as how the Jews feel about the holocaust?

Not downplaying the Holocaust, but Jews were persecuted in Germany for centuries before Hitler....back even before the days of Moses Mendelssohn.

 

[oldngray]

Not downplaying the Holocaust, but News were persecuted in Germany for centuries before Hitler....back even before the days of Moses Mendelssohn.

Germany had a streak of anti Semitism since Martin Luther. Luther started protesting against Catholic abuses but his later writings (which Hitler used) attacked Jews.

 

[Sportello]

Agreed. Tell that to Black Lives Matter.

One is not the same as the other.

@wkmac can tell you the word that describes that faulty reasoning.

 

[MrFedEx]

Agreed. Tell that to Black Lives Matter.

Back to the subject. If father and son started a fire on federal land to cover-up their poaching activities, they both deserve to go to prison. No black helicopters, no over-reaching Big Government. They are criminals. Deal with it.

 

[oldngray]

One is not the same as the other.

@wkmac can tell you the word that describes that faulty reasoning.

From your quote:

We don't have the FREEDOM to disregard laws we don't like. We do have the freedom to petition that the laws be changed to reflect society.

Which you are now arguing the opposite and get to choose what laws you get to disregard.

Take a course in logic.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Way too many books to name. I was fascinated by the Holocaust from the time I was a teenager

Schindler's Ark, Night, and I have lived a Thousand Years were a few of my favorites. Read any of those?

 

[Jones]

Back to the subject. If father and son started a fire on federal land to cover-up their poaching activities, they both deserve to go to prison. No black helicopters, no over-reaching Big Government. They are criminals. Deal with it.

They accepted their sentences and surrendered peacefully. They have disavowed any connection to the gang of armed thugs.

 

[MAKAVELI]

They accepted their sentences and surrendered peacefully. They have disavowed any connection to the gang of armed thugs.

And yet the knuckleheads remain and intent on making a stand.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Germany had a streak of anti Semitism since Martin Luther. Luther started protesting against Catholic abuses but his later writings (which Hitler used) attacked Jews.

95 Theses.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Try reading http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/mobile/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005143 . You might just learn something.

I can Google too. Reading one article does not an expert make.

 

[Jones]

And yet the knuckleheads remain and intent on making a stand.

Neither the Hammonds nor the locals want them there. The Bundys and their gang are basically acting like professional agitators, taking advantage of the situation to start trouble. Be interesting to see how the feds handle it.

 

[MAKAVELI]

I can Google too. Reading one article does not an expert make.

I didn't state it would make her an expert. Only that she might learn SOMETHING.

 

[oldngray]

Neither the Hammonds nor the locals want them there. The Bundy's and their gang are basically acting like professional agitators, taking advantage of the situation to start trouble. Be interesting to see how the feds handle it.

It's not Cliven Bundy either. His sons and their friends. Who insist they aren't a "militia".

 

[rod]

Bundy's? Is Al Bundy there?

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law

 

[Operational needs]

Schindler's Ark, Night, and I have lived a Thousand Years were a few of my favorites. Read any of those?

Not the last one. I also read The Zookeepers Wife, The Upstairs Room, Sarah's Key, along with many others. And of course, who hasn't read The Diary of Anne Frank?

 

[Operational needs]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law

Blame it on stopsperhour. Lol.

 

[Sportello]

@oldngray, are you implying that

From your quote:

We don't have the FREEDOM to disregard laws we don't like. We do have the freedom to petition that the laws be changed to reflect society.

Which you are now arguing the opposite and get to choose what laws you get to disregard.

Take a course in logic.

You make no sense.