ORION + peak =CLUSterMEss

[OPTION3]

Yep put it in writing that I am not liable for anything that might happen from Turning around in said drive. Cracked concrete, oil leak, folded over blade of grass, ect. Then we can talk.

Yes…take the warning letter…keep it on file

 

[JackStraw]

I know someone at another center that recently went live. They were instructed to now turn around in residential drives to cut miles.

This company is freaking amazing sometimes.

The biggest hypocrites ever. 3 out of 5 days we are told in our pcm"Stay out of driveways!" Now they want us to turn around in them? Can't wait til someone take up chunks of blacktop...

 

[BigMoney]

Its called flavor of the week and it changes all the time

 

[cachsux]

Next is nothing but left turns.

 

[jaker]

Next is nothing but left turns.

You must not be on Orion , because that's all it has you doing

 

[TooTechie]

Yesterday all of our work was in EDD which made delivering it fairly straightforward; however, I was asked to help out a junior driver who was struggling---the work that he gave me was delivered "old school".

You didn't use the transfer edd function in the diad? Or did the junior driver not have the work in his board either?

 

[Catatonic]

Amazing that UPS spent all this money to design a system that's less efficient than a 16 year old pizza delivery driver.

The smartest artificial intelligence program on the fastest computer has the competence of a preschooler human.

 

[TooTechie]

I get EDD as soon as I punch in and update it right after the PCM.

I get edd when I punch in then again when I'm outside doing my pretrip because I found if I don't wait that long, I end up with late add/cuts that are in edd when they're not supposed to be or vice versa.

 

[TooTechie]

In many areas with narrower streets you CAN'T turn around in driveways.

And when the homeowner puts in a claim for the tire marks on the grass next to the narrow driveways you'll be the one charged with an accident. If there is a cul de sac I use it.

 

[cachsux]

You must not be on Orion , because that's all it has you doing

I'm on Feeder so this is only amusing for now.

 

[brownmonster]

I'm the driver.

 

[jaker]

I'm on Feeder so this is only amusing for now.

Ah I see now , but yeah Orion loves the left , left turns , left side deliver and cherry picking from the left side of the truck

 

[Thebrownstreak]

I'm happy to say that i never worked under orion, and never will. But from what I've heard its been an absolute disaster. I was a driver who came up during the EDD years. So i can understand that the "old timers" worked by a totally different system. I do feel that EDD was a big part of learning the basics of an area. It took me a year before i felt comfortable with doing all of the different variables that came during the day. It really took my taking of a rural route where i developed the use of using maps and trying to figure out where to drop in on stops. On my final route, you could take one road and have to drive 5 miles to deliver 1 stop, then turn around and have to drive those 5 miles back to where you started. But if you postponed that stop till later in the day, you could get it from the other end of the road when you were only 1 mile away on the road that intersects it.

I do feel that the new drivers will rely too much on the technology to try and get the job done. Common sense won't come into it.

 

[JL 0513]

So right now we are constantly told to never back into driveways unless absolutely necessary. We are told to drive around a block to avoid a back. No shortcuts! We are told. UPS has a long standing strategy of mostly right turns.

Suddenly with ORION, this all goes out the window??

Oh, and how does one "turn ORION off? Someone mentioned earlier. You can't turn EDD off.

 

[OPTION3]

I'm happy to say that i never worked under orion, and never will. But from what I've heard its been an absolute disaster. I was a driver who came up during the EDD years. So i can understand that the "old timers" worked by a totally different system. I do feel that EDD was a big part of learning the basics of an area. It took me a year before i felt comfortable with doing all of the different variables that came during the day. It really took my taking of a rural route where i developed the use of using maps and trying to figure out where to drop in on stops. On my final route, you could take one road and have to drive 5 miles to deliver 1 stop, then turn around and have to drive those 5 miles back to where you started. But if you postponed that stop till later in the day, you could get it from the other end of the road when you were only 1 mile away on the road that intersects it.

I do feel that the new drivers will rely too much on the technology to try and get the job done. Common sense won't come into it.

HEE HEE---"old timers"---I remember PAPER

 

[Jackburton]

Yes but per Orion trainers you are no longer to go to the end of the cul da sac. You are to turn around in the driveway of your deepest stop.

These are the times reciting their 5 keys to backing mantra is all you need. Using their own words against them, then asking what they want you to do going forward makes me smile like an opossum eating peach seeds

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You didn't use the transfer edd function in the diad? Or did the junior driver not have the work in his board either?

It is much faster to just take the work and deliver it "old school".

 

[CharleyHustle]

The smartest artificial intelligence program on the fastest computer has the competence of a preschooler human.

Oh! So that's why UPS is so sold on ORION. It's a huge upgrade over the managers doing the dispatch now.

 

[Pkgcar1988]

So right now we are constantly told to never back into driveways unless absolutely necessary. We are told to drive around a block to avoid a back. No shortcuts! We are told. UPS has a long standing strategy of mostly right turns.

Suddenly with ORION, this all goes out the window??

Oh, and how does one "turn ORION off? Someone mentioned earlier. You can't turn EDD off.

You can toggle between Orion delivery order(odo) or regular delivery order( rdo) on the diad. You do not actually shut it off.

 

[Catatonic]

Oh! So that's why UPS is so sold on ORION. It's a huge upgrade over the managers doing the dispatch now.

Or based on your reply, smarter than the average driver?