Palin Quits as Alaskan Governor

wkmac

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Speaking of Palin's future, I just saw this at the LRC blogs.

Fear and Loathing on the Olbermann Show

Posted by Lew Rockwell on July 7, 2009 08:04 AM

Last night I caught an interesting moment on the Keith Olbermann show: they were alarmed at the continuing breakup of the Republican party. Don’t cheer it, they warned. This is a moment that could bring forth a new independent party that could wreak havoc (i.e., hurt Obama) in the 2012 elections. Palin? asked Keith in a shaky voice. No, something far worse, someone from outside the political system, a “demagogue” combining Ross Perot’s attacks on federal spending and deficits and “Pat Buchanan’s nativism,” who would rally angry people against the regime.

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"rally angry people against the REGIME." REGIME? He said "REGIME?"
Now why would people be angry if current REGIME policy is good and the level of people's suffering is drastically reducing?

Interesting what they really fear!
:peaceful:
 

brett636

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I think you're confusing a lone cartoonist with [-]"the liberal press"[/-] plenty of people on both the right and left. Karl Rove was certainly less than impressed, though I think Bill Kristol stuck up for her.
The democrats you mentioned all quit their previous jobs to move up. John McCain was prepared to do the same thing, and noone batted an eye when Palin was quitting her job in order to take a shot at the VP spot. Democrats and republicans do it all the time in politics and it's no big deal.
It's not quitting her job that's the issue, it's quitting in the middle of her first term for no discernible reason other than that she apparently just didn't feel like doing it anymore.
As far as her making a run in 2012, I think that would be a donkey's dream come true. The base may love her but on the national scene she's a train wreck. The best thing she can do for the GOP is ride off into the sunset, maybe get a job with FOX as a political analyst. I'm sure she could draw a pretty nice check, and she might learn something from hanging out with Rove.

Perhaps you are not aware of this, but she is most likely resigning in order to move up in the political arena. Moving up to where and how high is the question.


Palin 2012!
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
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Perhaps you are not aware of this, but she is most likely resigning in order to move up in the political arena. Moving up to where and how high is the question.


Palin 2012!
And you're not aware of it either. I am aware of speculation to that effect, but I seriously doubt it. I wouldn't discount her throwing her hat in the ring, but bailing out on the governorship 3 years before the election doesn't look that good on the resume. Like I said, the democrats would love to see it, so at least it would make them happy. If she actually got the nomination (she won't, you heard it here first) it would be the equivalent of the GOP putting a gun to it's own head. Bozo the Clown would beat her in the general election. If the economy stays in the tank the GOP's best bet is probably someone like Romney, a smart guy/gal with a successful business background who can offer an alternative to the by then failed solutions of the democrats. If the economy rebounds, or at least looks like it's headed in the right direction, they've got a real problem because that means Obama will likely continue to have the kind of high personal approval ratings that make an incumbent almost impossible to beat.
Whatever the case, they should have an excellent shot at winning back one or both houses of congress because congressional approval ratings are always bad, regardless of whose in command.
 

Jones

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Fox News Sunday Show, June 29th 2008' Bill Kristol announces McCain's VP will be Sarah Palin. Seen here in this BC post last August.

I had no idea Bill Kristol's night job was working for the phychic friends network!

:wink2:
Ya know, I had a broken watch once....
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brett636

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And you're not aware of it either. I am aware of speculation to that effect, but I seriously doubt it. I wouldn't discount her throwing her hat in the ring, but bailing out on the governorship 3 years before the election doesn't look that good on the resume. Like I said, the democrats would love to see it, so at least it would make them happy. If she actually got the nomination (she won't, you heard it here first) it would be the equivalent of the GOP putting a gun to it's own head. Bozo the Clown would beat her in the general election. If the economy stays in the tank the GOP's best bet is probably someone like Romney, a smart guy/gal with a successful business background who can offer an alternative to the by then failed solutions of the democrats. If the economy rebounds, or at least looks like it's headed in the right direction, they've got a real problem because that means Obama will likely continue to have the kind of high personal approval ratings that make an incumbent almost impossible to beat.
Whatever the case, they should have an excellent shot at winning back one or both houses of congress because congressional approval ratings are always bad, regardless of whose in command.

If you listened to her speeches and correspondence since the decision was announced you cannot deny that she has every intention of moving onto bigger and better things. Just how big is the question. She may not get the presidential nomination in 2012 if she decides to run for Senate instead. Maybe she intends on running for President in 2016. We won't know till then. We can only speculate. Palin has a bigger following then you are obviously aware of. In a recent speech she gave in upstate New York a crowd of 20,000 showed up from a town of just 26,000. Joe Biden can't even draw an audience of that size. When she runs her national campaign you will see she is a very shrewd politician who has a very good chance at the highest office in the land. Just sit and wait, you will see.
 

Jones

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If you listened to her speeches and correspondence since the decision was announced you cannot deny that she has every intention of moving onto bigger and better things. Just how big is the question. She may not get the presidential nomination in 2012 if she decides to run for Senate instead. Maybe she intends on running for President in 2016. We won't know till then. We can only speculate. Palin has a bigger following then you are obviously aware of. In a recent speech she gave in upstate New York a crowd of 20,000 showed up from a town of just 26,000. Joe Biden can't even draw an audience of that size. When she runs her national campaign you will see she is a very shrewd politician who has a very good chance at the highest office in the land. Just sit and wait, you will see.
She has a fanatical following, I'll grant you that. But so did Howard Dean. Dean had his scream, Palin had Katie Couric, and neither one of them will ever be president. There's not a whole lot else to do in Auburn, NY, so the crowd really isn't that surprising. Those people probably all voted for her in November and clearly it wasn't enough. National elections aren't won in places like Auburn. If she can pull the same percantage of the population in New York, Chicago, or L.A., you might have something. Comparing her to Biden is a non-starter, there's a reason he never got the nomination and she won't be running against him anyway. Sure, anything could happen I guess, maybe I'll be surprised. But I've been watching this dog and pony show for almost 45 years now, and I don't get surprised much anymore.

McCain hit a real home run with his pick. Unlike Biden, Palin is not a longtime Washington insider, and unlike both Obama and Biden she has executive experience as Governor of Alaska. She pay even pull a few hillary supporters over to McCain. Excellent choice for VP, this is a ticket that will ensure a President elect McCain in Nov.
Ahh, the memories :)
 

brett636

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She has a fanatical following, I'll grant you that. But so did Howard Dean. Dean had his scream, Palin had Katie Couric, and neither one of them will ever be president. There's not a whole lot else to do in Auburn, NY, so the crowd really isn't that surprising. Those people probably all voted for her in November and clearly it wasn't enough. National elections aren't won in places like Auburn. If she can pull the same percantage of the population in New York, Chicago, or L.A., you might have something. Comparing her to Biden is a non-starter, there's a reason he never got the nomination and she won't be running against him anyway. Sure, anything could happen I guess, maybe I'll be surprised. But I've been watching this dog and pony show for almost 45 years now, and I don't get surprised much anymore.

Considering our current President and Congress are doing everything in their power to keep this economy in its current state through the next Presidential election I do not see how people in those places you mentioned won't be ready for a President Palin. I could live with a President Romney, but I don't like his track record on gun rights. Anyways, I digress. Its tough to decipher what the political climate will be like in 2012. For the sake of this country it better be the exact opposite of where it is today.


Ahh, the memories :)

Thats what I get for assuming McCain could run that well of a campaign post Palin announcement. Unfortunately his campaign became as impotent as the old man himself. :(
 

UPS Lifer

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Hey Jones... All I can say is you got to be kidding about Biden. He is the biggest joke the demos have had since the peanut farmer!

Biden is no asset to BO unless you minus the "et". If BO could get rid of him right now he would in a heart beat. He wears edible shoes so that he does not choke on them every time he puts his feet in his mouth! LOL!
 

Jones

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Hey Jones... All I can say is you got to be kidding about Biden. He is the biggest joke the demos have had since the peanut farmer!

Biden is no asset to BO unless you minus the "et". If BO could get rid of him right now he would in a heart beat. He wears edible shoes so that he does not choke on them every time he puts his feet in his mouth! LOL!
Hmmm, not sure what you are referencing. I basically said that Biden was a lousy presidential candidate and therefore comparing him to Palin was of little consequence.
 

Jones

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Considering our current President and Congress are doing everything in their power to keep this economy in its current state through the next Presidential election I do not see how people in those places you mentioned won't be ready for a President Palin. I could live with a President Romney, but I don't like his track record on gun rights. Anyways, I digress. Its tough to decipher what the political climate will be like in 2012. For the sake of this country it better be the exact opposite of where it is today.
I think a lot of people could live with a president Romney, a lot more than could live with a president Palin. But you're right, this is all just idle speculation right now. We'll find out soon enough.
 

UPS Lifer

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Hmmm, not sure what you are referencing. I basically said that Biden was a lousy presidential candidate and therefore comparing him to Palin was of little consequence.

My heartfelt apology!

OK! I am on drugs! I read it to fast!

I promise to read slower next time. I better start wearing edible shoes! LOL!
 

Jones

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My heartfelt apology!

OK! I am on drugs! I read it to fast!

I promise to read slower next time. I better start wearing edible shoes! LOL!
You were in such a hurry to take a shot at 'ol jonesy that you jumped the gun! I forgive you :happy-very:.

And Brett, here's something to cheer you up:
[FONT=georgia, times new roman, times, serif]Obama in trouble in a key swing state

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] The president's approval rating drops below 50 percent in Ohio
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[FONT=times new roman, times, serif]Jul. 07, 2009 |
Bad news for President Obama, and for Ohio Democrats: The president's approval rating in that pivotal swing state has fallen to 49 percent, according to a Quinnipiac survey released Tuesday.

Obviously, Obama's approval rating this far out from the next presidential election, and even the 2010 midterms, isn't a great predictor of anything. But it does appear to be a sign of how the nation's economic woes are beginning to affect him politically, and the hit he and other Democrats could take if the economy doesn't start to show real improvement soon.

So far, the White House is dismissing the poll as an outlier, saying more data is needed. That's a fair point, obviously, but there's more support for this result than the Obama team wants to admit. This is part of a trend in Quinnipiac's polling of Ohio -- Obama's approval rating has been dropping fast in their surveys in that state -- and at the end of last month, Public Policy Polling had the president's approval at 51 percent.

Nationally, Obama's still doing well, with Real Clear Politics' average of his approval rating as measured by various pollsters holding at 58 percent. But the states individually matter much more than any national polling.
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JimJimmyJames

Big Time Feeder Driver
I am amazed how many miles this thread has traveled so far.

I mean, do Republicans really want to draw their line in the sand with her using the stick?
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
I am amazed how many miles this thread has traveled so far.

I mean, do Republicans really want to draw their line in the sand with her using the stick?

Since all men are pigs and it's becoming harder and harder to find a republican male who hasn't screwed everything not nailed down, maybe they're grasping at Palin with the idea that she's not a skirt chaser.

:surprise: OMG! You don't think her resignation was......:nonono:

:winks:


Let's hope Sarah has learned from the brutal abuse & raping she's took from McCain, the GOP and the Monster and she can return to those independent roots from which she came.

Sarah Palin and the Alaska Independence Party. Palin addresses AIP convention

If only more leaders had this courage, openess and ideal of people making their own individual free choices. A political society of free and open competition. How so refreshing and I'll give her that but then when you hold to principles rather than a dominate position of protecting party, you can afford such freedom. Hope for Palin's sake, she can rediscover that of herself.

Good luck to her.
 

brett636

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I Still Hate You, Sarah Palin
The Republicans bring a knife to a gunfight, and lose again.

By David Kahane

One of the most terrifying moments of my political life came last summer at the Republican convention in St. Paul. No, I don’t mean seeing John McCain careering around the Xcel Energy Center like Eyegore in Young Frankenstein, his face frozen in a Lon Chaney Sr. rictus grin as he reached across the aisle to his erstwhile friends in the media and got his hand bitten off. Rather, I’m referring to the aftermath of Sarah Palin’s outrageous acceptance speech, which whipped up the Rotary Club delegates into a frenzy of white-boy fury that not even heckling by a brave Code Pink embed could deter. Truly a fascist classic and one that sent shivers down our collectivist spines.

Even worse was the glaze of horror on the phizzes of the assembled heroes of the Mainstream Media. Andrea Mitchell — yes, the very same Andrea Mitchell, NBC News, Washington, whose employer saw no conflict of interest at all when she married then Fed pooh-bah Alan Greenspan — stood there gaping like a frog while the rest of the assembled Finemans and Matthewses and Olbermanns scurried around like roaches when the light gets turned on: What the hell just hit us? For one horrible moment, it looked as if the carefully crafted plans of David Axelrod, Rahm Emanuel, George Soros, and the Second Chief Directorate, first department, of the old KGB were about to gang agley.

Not only were we offended at the sheer effrontery of McCain’s pick: How dare the Republicans proffer this déclassée piece of Wasilla trailer trash whose only claim to fame was that she didn’t exercise her right to choose? Where were her degrees from Smith or Barnard, her internships at PETA, the Brookings Institution, or the Young Pioneers? We were also outraged that the Stupid Party had just nominated a completely unqualified candidate nobody had ever heard of, a first-term governor of Alaska whose previous experience consisted of a small-town mayoralty. As opposed to our guy, Barry Soetoro of Mombasa, Djakarta, and Honolulu, a first-term senator nobody had ever heard of, whose previous experience had been as a state senator (D., Daley Machine) in Illinois. After eight long, illegitimate, lawless years of &*^%BUSH$#@! tyranny, how dare you contest this election?

And so the word went out, from that time and place: Eviscerate Sarah Palin like one of her field-dressed moose. Turn her life upside down. Attack her politics, her background, her educational history. Attack her family. Make fun of her husband, her children. Unleash the noted gynecologist Andrew Sullivan to prove that Palin’s fifth child was really her grandchild. Hit her with everything we have: Maureen Dowd of the New York Times, taking a beer-run break from her quixotic search for Mr. Right to drip venom on Sister Sarah; post-funny comic David Letterman, to joke about her and her daughters on national television; Katie Couric, the anchor nobody watches, to give this Alaskan interloper a taste of life in the big leagues; former New York Times hack Todd “Mr. Dee Dee Myers” Purdum, to act as an instrument of Graydon Carter’s wrath at Vanity Fair. Heck, we even burned her church down. Even after the teleological triumph of The One, the assault had to continue, each blow delivered with our Lefty SneerTM (viz.: Donny Deutsch yesterday on Morning Joe), until Sarah was finished.

You know what? It worked! McCain finally succumbed to his long-standing case of Stockholm Syndrome (“My friends, you have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency”), Tina Fey turned Palin into a see-Russia-from-my-house joke, “conservative” useful idiots like Peggy Noonan and Kathleen Parker hatched her, and finally Sarah cried No más and walked away. If we could, we’d cut off her head and mount it on a wall at Tammany Hall, except there is no more Tammany Hall unless you count Obama’s Tony Rezko–financed home in Chicago. And it took only eight months — heck, Sarah couldn't even have another kid in the time it took us to destroy her. That’s the Chicago way!

Yes, my friends, it’s once again time to quote Sean Connery’s famous speech from The Untouchables, written by David Mamet — the lecture the veteran Chicago cop gives a wet-behind-the-ears Eliot Ness (Kevin Costner, back when he was a movie star) while they sit in a church pew. “You want to get Capone? Here’s how you get him: he pulls a knife, you pull a gun, he sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That’s the Chicago way!” If you just think of us — liberal Democrats — as Capone you’ll begin to understand what we’re up to. And we just put one of yours in the morgue.

I don’t know why I’m telling you this, but maybe now you’re beginning to understand the high-stakes game we’re playing here. This ain’t John McCain’s logrolling senatorial club any more. This is a deadly serious attempt to realize the vision of the 1960s and to fundamentally transform the United States of America. This is the fusion of Communist dogma, high ideals, gangster tactics, and a stunning amount of self-loathing. For the first time in history, the patrician class is deliberately selling its own country down the river just to prove a point: that, yes, we can! This country stinks and we won’t be happy until we’ve forced you to admit it.

In other words, stop thinking of the Democratic Party as merely a political party, because it’s much more than that. We’re not just the party of slavery, segregation, secularism, and sedition. Not just the party of Aaron Burr, Boss Tweed, Richard J. Croker, Bull Connor, Chris Dodd, Richard Daley, Bill Ayers, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, and Emperor Barack Hussein Obama II. Not just the party of Kendall “Agent 202” Myers, the State Department official recruited as a Cuban spy along with his wife during the Carter administration. Rather, think of the Democratic Party as what it really is: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party.

If you had any sense, you would start using our tactics against us. After all, you have a few lawyers on your side. Sue us. File frivolous ethics complaints against all our elected officials until, like Sarah, they go broke from defending themselves. (David Paterson would be a good place to start.) Challenge the constitutionality of BO2’s legion of fill-in-the-blank czars — none of whom have to be confirmed, or even pass a security check. (Come to think of it, neither did Barry.) Let slip your own journalistic dogs of war, assuming you have any, to find Barry’s birth certificate, his college transcripts, whether he applied to Occidental as a foreign student, and on which passport he traveled in 1981 to Pakistan with his friend Wahid Hamid, for starters.

You might also want to think about interviewing New York literary agent Jane Dystel, who a) contacted the totally unknown Obama in the wake of an adulatory New York Times piece in 1990 and b) got him a $125,000 advance for a memoir that c) he couldn’t write, even after a long sojourn in Bali, which d) got the contract canceled, whereupon e) Dystel got him $40,000 from another publisher, following which friend) the book finally came out to glowing reviews and g) Obama fired her. Wouldn’t she have an interesting story to tell?

Of course, you won’t. You’re too nice, too enamored of history and tradition to realize that the rules have changed. Remember, I live and work in a town where, “Hello, he lied,” isn’t a joke; we men of the Left are perfectly comfortable lying, cheating, and stealing — hello, Senator Franken! — in order to attain and keep political power. Not for nothing is one of our mottos, “By Any Means Necessary.” You see, we’re the good guys, and for us the ends always justify the means. We are, literally, shameless, which is why Bill Clinton is now a multi-millionaire and Eliot Spitzer is already on the comeback trail.

In Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, “the fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.” This is the book that “Reset” Rodham (what ever happened to her?) and BHO II grew up reading and continue to live by. If you don’t understand that that’s the way we see you — as the enemy — then you’re too dumb to survive. Remember that for us politics is not just an avocation, or even just a job, but our life. We literally stay awake nights thinking up ways to screw you. And one of the ways we do that is by religiously observing Alinsky’s Rule No. 4.

Did Sarah stand for “family values”? Flay her unwed-mother daughter. Did she represent probity in a notoriously corrupt, one-family state? Spread rumors about FBI investigations. Did she speak with an upper-Midwest twang? Mock it relentlessly on Saturday Night Live. Above all, don’t let her motivate the half of the country that doesn’t want His Serene Highness to bankrupt the nation, align with banana-republic Communist dictators, unilaterally dismantle our missile defenses, and set foot in more mosques than churches since he has become president. We’ve got a suicide cult to run here.

 

brett636

Well-Known Member
And that’s why Sarah had to go. Whether she understood it or not, she threatened us right down to our most fundamental, meretricious, elitist, sneering, snobbish, insecure, Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders bones. She was, after all, a “normal” American, the kind of person (or so I’m told) you meet in flyover country. The kind that worries first about home and hearth and believes in things like motherhood and love of country the way it is, not the way she wants to remake it.

What you clowns need, in other words, is a Rules for Radical Conservatives to explain what you’re up against and teach you how to compete before it’s too late. Luckily, since I care about money even more than I care about politics, I have just such a book in the proposal stage, currently making the rounds of various publishers, assuming any of them are wise enough to take me up on it.

And, yes, this time it really is personal.
 

wkmac

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You know, if I were a good, loyal republican like many of you here, I'd find the source of that kind of tripe and put them out of business. Someone who would write stuff like that is just anti-american!

:wink2:

Always be honest enough to source link the material and it also keeps potential copyright problems down for the website owners. Nuff Said!
 

brett636

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tieguy

Banned
I am amazed how many miles this thread has traveled so far.

I mean, do Republicans really want to draw their line in the sand with her using the stick?

Looking our last three presidents and the options in congress it may be time for a president with a great rack and a nice set of legs. :happy-very:
 
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