Right Hand Rule Gone for good?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Packmule, Jul 13, 2015.

  1. Packmule

    Packmule Well-Known Member

    Just got set up on Orion last week. Cannot believe they really expect us to mole all those unnecessary left turns. How long till the tier III accident kill this turkey? No way they should have implimented this program till it can recognize even an odd patterns to reduce left turns!
     
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  2. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Safety is above ORION, do what's safe.
     
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  3. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    The right turn rules has been gone for years. They not worried about you sitting waiting for a red light anymore they worried about a saving a couple miles so they can save a buck or two on gas even if it means they pay you 1 or 2 hrs of OT at $50 + hr doing it. Makes no sense but I don't get paid to question there stupidity and as long as they still willing to pay my OT to drive around in circles all day who cares.
     
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  4. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    We had a driver who refused to make those turns because it causes him to go across busy roads several times a day. He pleaded his case and said it was unsafe to do to so. Our on car agreed and they now have it set up so that he makes less left turns and crosses busy streets less. Who knows, maybe you can do the same by explaining your side.
     
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  5. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    I follow Orion STOP FOR STOP. The only time I deviate is if NDA service is in jeopardy, or to make sure a business SAVER isn't late. I then immediately get right back on trace. My bank account and 401K love Orion. I'm not paid to make decisions. It's there world. I'm just living in it.
     
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  6. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    My trainer, told me they studied the fact and after years of banging, only go right, the orion machine days go left all day. It saves miles, but it increases our day, and no one cares til they want to b**ch about over allow. And they dont listen to our side..
     
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  7. porkwagon

    porkwagon Active Member

    A buck or two on gas is a factor but not the only factor I think. I think it's about mileage, and all the wear and tear that go with it. Plus perhaps insurance issues. And who knows what else.
     
  8. UPSER110

    UPSER110 Active Member

    Orion is unsafe in so many ways. SAFETY, SERVICE, orion... is my order everyday
     
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  9. porkwagon

    porkwagon Active Member

    I've been on ORION for over two years now and have adjusted. I've been at the job a long time and have come accustomed to adjusting to changing conditions over the years. I keep the DIAD screen on odo, and try to follow it close.. I break strategically, make sound decisions based on my experience, and take a meal period of one hour whenever it works for me. I manage to stay off the radar. I do not look at any computer screens at work other than the DIAD, and I don't get to my package car until the PCM is over.
     
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  10. porkwagon

    porkwagon Active Member

    To give you an idea of the trip I do, it's not the hardest or easiest. I average 200 stops a day, half resi, half com. About 340 pieces delivered on average and only 8 pick ups. 100 pieces picked up on a heavy day. And usually about 50 miles. Many of the resis are apartments that have 3 floors. Top floor wins every day.
     
  11. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    I get embarrasssed every day at the pcm because some city driver is like 22 miles over every day. One of the guys that covers my route said there is no way that can be done in 50 miles. I just smile, take my beating and go do it again.
     
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  12. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    I tried it ... it still works.

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  13. pickup

    pickup Well-Known Member

    Damn it, Hoax, you beat me to it. I was coming out of posting semi-retirement for this one.

    I was going to go with this post:

    Screw them, I still use my slide rule and I'm still going to use the right hand rule.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-hand_rule
     
  14. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Oh please no. Getting nightmares from my electrical engineering class.
     
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  15. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    Management can't even fix a simple problem, such as the first two ORION stops being out of order, forcing a dangerous left-hand turn instead of a right-hand turn, two businesses next to each other, on the first stops of the day . "Who knows" is right.
     
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  16. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Sounds like your management team needs to be taught the software a little better. Yikes.
     
  17. porkwagon

    porkwagon Active Member

    Sure they can. I had that issue, I showed them the problem, and then it was fixed. To be more clear, I showed the problem to the division manager, and he made sure it got fixed.
     
  18. Grey

    Grey Active Member

    You must have a great pre-loader(s) to follow it 100%.
     
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  19. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    Slide rule?
    I musta missed the upgrade from the Abbacus!
     
  20. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    22 miles over is nearly 50% of your projected, which does sound awfully high.
     
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