Sat Air driver pay confusion

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by hyena, Dec 10, 2009.

  1. hyena

    hyena I shut down BC

    Im an exception sat air driver. On my last paycheck they only paid me air rate for half the day the other half they have me on carwash and they want to pay me inside rate. Has anyone else had a problem with this. Thanx for everyones input.
     
  2. upsyo

    upsyo Member

    if im in the building for a long period of time i am put on the "wash" otherwise im paid regular air pay.
     
  3. hyena

    hyena I shut down BC

    So after two years they just decide to start paying me different? Hmm could it have something to do with the fact I went to top rate? Also I thought when I worked on sat It was as an air driver no one ever said im also coming in to preload. The point is when I first started I was told on sat I would be paid air driver rate not my inside rate!
     
  4. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    Did you ask your SUP why they did that? Did you do anything else besides deliver air on sat ? If not I'd file a grievance. UPS is probably trying to pull a fast one thinking that you won't do anything about it and they save a couple of bucks.
     
  5. chopstic

    chopstic New Member

    Yep... Its not like driving ground as an air driver, where you get bumped up to top wage ground driver pay for all shifts performed that day. They only pay you air driving wages for the time you work as an air driver. If you've gotten away with air driver pay for inside work before you should feel lucky.
     
  6. bingbing

    bingbing New Member

    if they are paying you for a pre-load shift before you actually drive then tell them you want your guarantee for the shift 3.5 hrs. they will stop the nonsense. i did this on a holiday Friday, there was about 1.5 hrs of pre-loading due to all the airs that day. they changed my code to diminish my pay rate. i filed for my guarantee for this supposed pre-load shift . they ended up saying they didn't know how the time code was "accidentally" change and cut me a green check for the difference in time.
     
  7. hyena

    hyena I shut down BC

    Yea I didnt think of that plus they would have to pay me overtime for sat is my 6th day of work.
     
  8. rebel

    rebel New Member

    The company did this in our center last year. It was grieved and won. You will be paid as an air driver for all ours worked on saturday including the sort. Ask for back pay in your grievance and the penalty pay. Get with your steward if you need help. This grievance was settled and paid without going to the panel.
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2009
  9. chopstic

    chopstic New Member

    I would appreciate more info on this, as I perform a lot of air driving duties sporadically during my shift everyday throughout the week. Am I entitled to air driver pay for all hours worked inside during the shift, sinced I mixed in a bit of air driving? If so, this would make my paycheck much happier.
     
  10. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    As a 22.3 inside/outside, you are. If you are driving during your inside hours, you can certainly claim the higher pay rate with a grievance. Just be warned, they will ride you to hell and back after that grievance.
     
  11. rebel

    rebel New Member

    An exception air driver has no guarantee. I am thinking you are talking about driving air during the week after or before your regular shift, preload or local sort. It would not apply.
     
  12. rebel

    rebel New Member

    There was not any retaliation in our center. However, we did settle for only the pay correction and not the back pay. We had multiple grievances on this from all affected employees.
     
  13. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    Chopstic to my knowledge is not a PTer, but an inside/outside 22.3 air. That is addressing the first post.

    As far as retaliation, I agree, it would be less chafing to only grieve for a pay rate correction. But then again, if it is just one person filing and that person was making deals to do air driving instead of inside work (two halves air driving instead of combo), then they will likely be targeted for "misbehaving". Just IMO
     
  14. chopstic

    chopstic New Member

    sorry... I should have clarified. I'm part-time working as a revenue recovery auditor, and I do exception & saturday air driving. There really isn't much difference between air driving on saturday as opposed to air driving EAM during the week. So I'm guessing the contractual rules would be the same for both.

    Most of the time I drive before my regular shift. But sometimes I do a little exception air work during my rev-recovery shift, would this bump my whole shift to air driver wages?
     
  15. upsyo

    upsyo Member

  16. rebel

    rebel New Member

    Most of the time I drive before my regular shift. But sometimes I do a little exception air work during my rev-recovery shift, would this bump my whole shift to air driver wages?[/QUOTE]

    No
     
  17. rebel

    rebel New Member

    then they will likely be targeted for "misbehaving". Just IMO[/QUOTE]


    If they are misbehaving they should be targeted
     
  18. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member


    If they are misbehaving they should be targeted[/QUOTE]




    Aint Misbehavin - Leon Redbone

    not great recording but good vintage Leon Redbone
     
  19. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler


    If they are misbehaving they should be targeted[/QUOTE]

    I agree, but filing a valid grievance is not misbehaving to anyone except management who tries everything to flex and break the contract their way wherever and whenever possible.
     
  20. rebel

    rebel New Member

    I agree, but filing a valid grievance is not misbehaving to anyone except management who tries everything to flex and break the contract their way wherever and whenever possible.[/QUOTE]


    Some people will be scared all of their life......... MAN UP