Should you lose your seniority?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by East coast navy, Feb 21, 2016.

  1. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

    In local 177, you can not bid out side of your classification. So in order to work out side of your classification you have to transfer to the classification you wish to work in. When doing so you lose your center seniority(for bidding on jobs). Do you think that is right?
     
  2. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    No, but I work in a center where that does not happen, and that that is the right way.
     
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Yes. It would be treated like a transfer.
     
  4. retired2000

    retired2000 Active Member

    No you should not lose your seniority.
     
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Company? No.

    Classification? Yes.
     
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  6. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Why? you are in the same building, just a different job.
     
  7. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Different classification.
     
  8. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

    So if you bid from full time driver to a 22.3 job you go to the bottom of the 22.3 seniority list?
     
  9. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Good question.
     
  10. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

    No.
     
  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I do know that FTers in my center are only allowed to bid on specific 22.3 jobs.
     
  12. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

    It would state on the bid sheet who bidding is open 2
     
  13. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Under your way you do, we think you shouldn't
     
  14. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Only new 22.3's are bid that way
     
  15. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    We have PT and FT seniority in our area. Don't know why it's that way in 177, but it sounds like the intent is to keep full timers within their original classification.

    FT seniority always trumps PT seniority for bidding, etc. in our area except for displacement in a layoff situation. A FT'er with less "company seniority" cannot bump a PT'er from their job in a layoff situation.

    In my opinion, we should just have one seniority date.. but I'm not going to hold my breath.
     
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  16. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

    I think it should be that way as well. Your original hire date. But it isn't
     
  17. onestoptogo

    onestoptogo Member

    That would really hurt the outside full-time driver hire as the part-time inside hires advance to full-time and surpass them in seniority. I would have loved this when I finally got called up.
     
  18. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

    Pt seniority does not carry over into Ft seniority in local 177. Any time you transfer into any Ft classification you lose center seniority. Even 22.3
     
  19. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

    Ft to Ft and package center to package center you lose center seniority. When you bid on a job, you are married to it, Unless you vacate it. In feeders, jobs go up once a year.
     
  20. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    It's different all over.

    Even Locals within the same Region, can have different seniority practices.

    That's what Local Union autonomy is all about.

    But I gotta say.... yours is almost debilitating, as far as movement. Like a penalty.



    -Bug-