Teamsters????

Should UPS Teamster employees have the right to opt out of the union?


  • Total voters
    34
  • Poll closed .

804brown

Well-Known Member
You have no idea what you are talking about. I resent the fact that you are saying that I served in our armed forces to do any of these things. What the hell did you do? We are a free country because countless Americans have given their lives to insure your freedom to think that way you do. Why can't I deny my dues from going to DRIVE? Or on the other hand, just have the union just negotiate my wage? You do not understand, the union works for me. I pay them 900 bucks a year. Did you serve? Or did you just get in line for food stamps and burn our flag. People in need should and will be taken care of, and will. Free loaders on the other hand should probably just work a little harder at being self sufficeint. What do you think? If you are a driver, have you seen how bad our customers are doing? They are scared, layed off countless people leaving the ones left to a very stressfull job, shipping less and holding off on any hiring or capitol improvements till your beloved president is gone. 85% of these companies are not union. But they are our customers and do try take care of the employees that are left. America, we need a change.
Wow, you are all over the place here.
Listen you are the one who said he served to free us from "liberalism", not me. My point was liberalism gave us all those things and more, but you are ungrateful of those things and prefer to attack liberals for being evil or something. Another thing, we are a free country because of our constitution, not because we have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan (as well as 800 military bases throughout the world, but I digress).
On DRIVE, you have every right to withdraw from DRIVE. I have no problem with that. You are right the union is supposed to work for you. That is why they use that money to lobby for your best economic interests: better labor laws, better regulations on business, higher wages, protection of our benefits and pensions, etc. What is your problem with that??

So it comes down to a false choice between serving in the military or being on food stamps (and burning the flag)?? LOL! What a loon!! Listen some of our military are on line for food stamps! Are they free loaders too?? Stop blaming the victims of rapacious capitalism.
On change, we all voted for change in 2008. Obama tried implementing that change that 53% of voters demanded and he gets held up by a vocal and powerful Republican party that wants to protect its powerful masters on Wall St and Corporate America. Get over it!!
 

H82looz

Member
We, we, we all the way home to a house paid for by taxpayers, to a meal paid by taxpayers, to use the cell phone paid for by taxpayers, etc etc etc. Me selfish hardly, the selfish are those libs milking the system and living off my hard work. I don't see any common good for raping the American worker, to pay for the free loaders. Maybe you like to donate your $$$ to your leftist buddies but I don't, so I guess you can call me selfish and proud of it.
 

H82looz

Member
Great post my friend in uniform. These liberals were nothing but a gleem in daddys eye, when I was being forced out of a chopper into a hot lz. I fought for these libs, and I never ask why, it was my job, and am very thankful the good Lord let me survive. I don't ask for anything in return from these folks.
 
KEVCAVON,

Are you inclined to think before you post? Just curious as your rants are so full of hypocrisys it isnt even funny. You are completely free to withdraw from or not participate in DRIVE. This is a completely "VOLUNTARY" contribution and the Teamsters do not force anyone to participate in it.

How many times have you asked large corporations to reduce the price of goods you purchase to reflect your unwillingness to contribute to political action committees? Or do you only object to unions making political donations?

You have no idea if "I" or anyone else on this board has served in the military, but I can assure you, all those nuts on right wing radio NEVER served our country in any capacity either. El RUshbo, the biggest poser of them all, talks like he's so experienced with the military, but when it came time for him to serve , he chose to object because he said he had a BOIL on his rectum.

The guy barely finished high school, and only made half the first semester in college as a freshman before he quit earning straight friend's. With no formal education behind him, his legions of followers grasp his every word.

You referring to cuba demonstrates this. He constantly compares life in cuba to his perception of progressive thinking. There isnt a progressive in this country who would want to see this happen, yet its the stigma rush wants you to believe, and you do.

You can hate the teamsters all you want, thats your right, you can withdraw from DRIVE and thats your choice, you can support every republican that would end collective bargaining for you and reduce your wages and benefits and thats your right as a voter.

No one can take that from you, but what we can take from you is your character.

You hate the system (collective bargaining) and all thats required to see that its protected year after year and yet, despite being one of the highest paid employees in the package industry year after year without a single giveback, you would want to see harm done to the very practice that keeps you employed.

There is a big difference between you being a collective bargaining unit and a "AT WILL" employee.

As a bargaining unit member, there are rules in place to protect you and your employment.

As an "AT WILL" employee, you would, could and will be fired for any reason the company could cook up. There are no protections for "AT WILL" employees.

Your union dues percentage that goes to political actions provides you with the best protection in the world. It may not mean anything to you now, but if you ever needed the union to protect you, you would thank god everyday for every dollar you contributed over the years.

Large corporations prey on the "AT WILL" employees. Its a part of todays business model. Keep employees on the books for 90 days, then turn them over and start fresh with new bodies. This way, no permanent employees are created, which means no benefits, no holiday pay, no vacation pay, no medical benefits earned and no raises in pay.

I am sure you would gladly trade in your collective bargaining agreement to work under the guidelines of an "AT WILL" employee.

I am sure UPS would keep you and continue to spend the dollars it spends now on an employee they could fire simply because they didnt like the way your hair looked.

Right wing radio has done a great job of attacking unions for 10 straight months now. You are a classic example of a AM RADIO victim.

Peace.
 
My last post. you people can just GFYS. I was just making a point and I guess you can't take a opposing opionion. 2012 and anybody but barry. cya.
 

UnconTROLLed

perfection
You have no idea what you are talking about. I resent the fact that you are saying that I served in our armed forces to do any of these things. What the hell did you do? We are a free country because countless Americans have given their lives to insure your freedom to think that way you do. Why can't I deny my dues from going to DRIVE? Or on the other hand, just have the union just negotiate my wage? You do not understand, the union works for me. I pay them 900 bucks a year. Did you serve? Or did you just get in line for food stamps and burn our flag. People in need should and will be taken care of, and will. Free loaders on the other hand should probably just work a little harder at being self sufficeint. What do you think? If you are a driver, have you seen how bad our customers are doing? They are scared, layed off countless people leaving the ones left to a very stressfull job, shipping less and holding off on any hiring or capitol improvements till your beloved president is gone. 85% of these companies are not union. But they are our customers and do try take care of the employees that are left. America, we need a change.

You are terrible at debating.
 

upserr1

Well-Known Member
Is it just me or do you believe that the Teamster brass are part of the Obama administration? Hoffa and his crew are no better than politicians, do they care to take care of us(membership) or to advance themselves. What in the world does the Teamsters do with our dues? Allow me to take a shot at answering, our dues go directly to the democrate party. Am I the only one that takes great offense to this. The democrate party has nothing I or a whole lot of my union bros. believe in. I for one am totally ashamed that Teamster brass continues to go along with Obama and his left wing radical cronies that are trying to destroy America. They (Hoffa) say that health care is essential to America, then they ask for a waiver. Allowing political correctness to run our country and union, what a sham. The whole aspect of the union is a ponzi scheme. Seeing the public sector unions in Wisconsin scream bloody murder and want more of my tax money, so they can pay union dues which go right to Obama the community organiser. Our country needs right to work laws, this will give people who don't want to work in a union the RIGHT to say NO, instead of being forced to be in a union that we don't believe in politically speaking. I for one detest the teamsters for putting my union dues towards a political group I despise, which is the party of our fearless tail between the legs President, Obama. In closing I would like the Teamsters be de-certified as our union.

not only on obama train but on UPS payroll
 
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