That, 3 day time studies, must have been a long long time ago. I did time studies 16 years ago, and we didn't do 3 day rides back then and the guy who instructed us had been in and out of time study for over 10 years at that point and never mentioned that. We have done 3 day OJS rides. We have done 3 day rides with and without time study people to see what part of the drivers day is consistently where driver is losing time. We've also done multiple day rides to see if we could justify for a variance in areas that driver is following methods and he is consistenly overallowed. Usually this is in large malls with one park position driver has huge long walks inside mall that doesn't work out well with the study.They had 3 day time studies years ago,now it only takes 1 day"it all averages out" RIGHT!!!
As for missed scans alot are misloads put on wrong cars ,bad pals and assorted other problems not just THE DRIVERS
No,the faster you go and the earlier you get in only means one thing to management. "He doesn't have enough work"There are routes that are tough to scratch.
However with most if the price was right you could scratch it. In fact if I had a million dollars in a bag and told a driver he could have that million dollars if he followed the methods and scratched the route then he would scratch the route. Why?
Because every minute he spent on that route would be totally focused on the most efficent way to run that route. He would be totally focused one hundred percent on earning that million dollars.
Getting the same kind of focus from all drivers does not happen. I see the results every day. The drivers who hustles on the route and has rarely or never had an injury on the job. He's the first one in and the first one home everyday. Because mentally thats his focus to get the job done and go home.
The drivers who hustles on the route and has rarely or never had an injury on the job. He's the first one in and the first one home everyday
No,the faster you go and the earlier you get in only means one thing to management. "He doesn't have enough work"
Tie
I know, I know. I only know about my little microcosm of the larger company.
At our center, 8 of the 10 drivers that get in early predictably are on our injury repeater list. Most are on our auto accident repeaters. Three have had roll aways, when there has only been four in ten years. Most have multiple customer complaints on just about every route they go on. And some have been caught delivering out of the personal vehicle after they have punched out to go home.
So yes, they are focused. But not on the quality of performance at their job. They want to get in at all costs. And at times, even if getting in early means doing things to get them fired.
So while your million dollar scenario is interesting, there are many aspects to the drill that dont fit reality.
BTW, there are many 30 day wonders that prove your point. Hell, I can even do the impossible for 30 days. But try 30 years.
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Tooner - It's been a while since i did it and I'm not 100% sure, so I'll double check and get back to you. I know that for a preloader loading a larger car does give you more time then loading a small car due to the avg number of paces into the car is greater.beentheredonethat, I just have one small question,............. and it is the last time in my life I will ever ask, but no one who knows time study will ever answer me. Does the size matter...............of the car?
What I have noticed is...since the "new and improved standards" where we lost 5.8 seconds per pkg=30 minutes behind before we hit the gate (based on 300 scanned pkg) that those of us who used to be scratch to plus 50 are an hour late or more, especially those of us with 1000s or 1300s.
Now I have been told packages dont matter for much in time study..........
and Im thinking, well that is what we deliver..............
it cannot be just to and from miles, it cant be just on road miles
it cannot be just cod and call tags.......
Is there not a difference in the walk select, sort phase of a time study which would alllow more in a 1300 than a p600??? After all 1/4 of the day you would be walking about 16 more steps than in a p6.
My fellow guys and I are all a buck over than the ones still in 600s, and we were all in 600s when the study was done.
So if Im wrong Ill just go have another drink, if Im right I still will. I would just like an honest answer. Seems to me the first thing they put on a time study sheet was name, ss and package car SIZE for the study. Am I right or wrong?
Thanks I would appreciate your input.Tooner - It's been a while since i did it and I'm not 100% sure, so I'll double check and get back to you. I know that for a preloader loading a larger car does give you more time then loading a small car due to the avg number of paces into the car is greater.
BTDT
In many districts, when they implemented PAS the changed allowances for the per pkg delivery allowance. Kind of dumb if you ask me. What they should have done, in my opinion, is as the percent of pkgs with bar codes increased they should have weighted the per pkg allowance to reflect scanning the bar code vs writing down the pkg information. Slowly the measurements would have changed reflecting UPS going from 0% of pkgs with bar codes to 99.9 % with bar codes. By doing it all at once and by doing it at the same time they implemented PAS it gave a bad taste in everyones mouth for the standards and PAS.Tie, If time studys are mostly correct, how do you explain that I have been on the same rt. for 20 yrs running normally 50 to an hour under and getting in with the first 5 drivers. Now that our center has been re-looped the only way I can run under is to skip lunch and or breaks. Most days I come in with the last 5 drivers, I haven't changed the way I work at all, and now I am almost always over.